Team Ingebritsen takeaways

TVrites · 2023-09-04T14:37:54-04:00

Watching this now cause of all the posts about Jakob, Gjert and Ingrid and so on. Skipped some episodes of early seasons and sometimes had it on background when I wasn't taking in every subtitle, so correct me if I'm wrong or add your impressions. 1) Jakob is very lucky to have Henrik and Filip as older brothers. They know everything Gjert is going to think and say but they have filters in their heads and know when to leave someone alone and how to separate coaching from having OCD. They gave Jakob the best of both worlds by showing what could be done by following the program but also having enough perspective to tease their dad and have a fast food burger, basically giving Jakob permission to tune out their dad at times. If he didn't have them, I think he'd be a robot or boy in a bubble similar to how people perceived Rupp. [Obviously they are all lucky to have Gjert—just feel this doesn't need to be said. I teared up during the Olympics scene mostly cause of Gjert's reaction.] 2) Ingrid is working out twice a day by the time she's 14 but never really has a great race. Albeit, every race she enters is prob dominated by girls a couple years older, but she is racked with anxiety about getting it right. At the end of races, she is usually rueful about things she could have done but didn't. Is usually in better fitness than what the outcomes would say. Jakob makes some mistakes in early races where he decides to do his own thing. These are big races and very conspicuous in the manner that he failed. In a 5,000 (I think WC) he's leading but starts his kick too early and ends up 5th. In a steeple WC, his first time at a Worlds, he's leading and pushes beyond his capabilities, falls on the last steeple and basically has a wipeout. I can't remember if he had much angst over these outcomes. Probably not if I can't remember. The point is it is better to be rueful of what you did than what you didn't do. It made him a better racer. 3) Is Coke a sponsor of this show, or are they always having Coke and Fanta at dinner?

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2 years ago 09/06/2023 3:51pm EDT

re: Nick Kipleri

I've watched everyone a couple times, and yes Jakob seemed to be just a different kind of athlete. I compare him to like a young Michael Jordan type in Basketball. His confidence even as a 10 year old was off the charts. Gjert was a great influence, but also at times overbearing. There is one episode when Jakob beat Matthew Centrowitz for the first time in 2017. Philip raced the 5,000 that day as well but dropped out due to injury. After the 5k race he praised Henrick and said very loudly fu*k Filip. Team Ingebrigtsen season 2 episode 5 at the 6:16 mark. I had never heard a father say that about a son and on National Norway TV. I think he struggles with both roles as a coach and father and his kids may see him more as a coach and perhaps that intensity and what set the seeds for their current relationship. Martin seemed to have some interesting feelings.

2 years ago 09/06/2023 3:57pm EDT

re: TVrites

Well Jakob was only like 18 in that 2019 5,000 World Championship, and if you caught the interviews after he was distraught, more disappointed in himself for how he did in the 5,000 and 1500, although a 5th and 4th place in the World Championships for someone so young was admirable. He did go for the win, similar to Prefontaine in the 72 Olympic 5,000, when if he didn't go so hard so early he would probably have medaled. But that is more a measure of his confidence, even at 18 he thought he could beat anyone else in the world. That sort of confidence you can't teach but he has had that since he was 10! Yes he also did say "Jakob things", about his competitors after the 1500 in that interview, LMAO :)

2 years ago 09/06/2023 6:18pm EDT

re: trackfangirl

trackfangirl wrote:
I've watched everyone a couple times, and yes Jakob seemed to be just a different kind of athlete. I compare him to like a young Michael Jordan type in Basketball. His confidence even as a 10 year old was off the charts. Gjert was a great influence, but also at times overbearing. There is one episode when Jakob beat Matthew Centrowitz for the first time in 2017. Philip raced the 5,000 that day as well but dropped out due to injury. After the 5k race he praised Henrick and said very loudly fu*k Filip. Team Ingebrigtsen season 2 episode 5 at the 6:16 mark. I had never heard a father say that about a son and on National Norway TV. I think he struggles with both roles as a coach and father and his kids may see him more as a coach and perhaps that intensity and what set the seeds for their current relationship. Martin seemed to have some interesting feelings.

This sounded really off to me so I had to check, and my suspicion was right.

He doesnt say "fu*k fillip", he says "faen Fillip" which is a compassionate statement. Its more or less saying "fu*king hell"/"damn it"/"the hell" or whatever, cursing the unfortunate events not him. You shouldn't make these claims when you don’t know the language at all and watch it with some automatic translation. When you hear something that seems very shocking to you, your first inclination should be that the automatic translation isn't correctly capturing what is said, not that they are totally outrageous.

Language doesn't work that way that you can just translate word for word and get the right meaning as the automatic translator does (and in addition to this it often is plain wrong in its word for word translation). Fun fact is that if he would say something that amounted to"f*ck Filip" he would have said literally "f*ck Filip".

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2 years ago 09/07/2023 5:31pm EDT

re: RojosFavoriteRunner

In the first episode of Season 5, they are talking about how much Henrik paved the way for the rest of the family. Jakob says that Henrik taught him to believe in himself, saying "it's important to set goals that are too tough to reach. There is something about mentality, you should think you are better than you are." The extreme confidence and competitiveness is an important factor in this family being so good... even if some LRC posters hate it.

2 years ago 09/07/2023 6:56pm EDT

re: LarsL11

In the subtitles, they invoke "Satan" a lot. Figure they are saying something in Norwegian equivalent to "Hell..."

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