Any interest in Kara Goucher's new book?

You are sick

This is total BS, read the book

Was she lying then or is she lying now??

As a fan of running it's a great read and an insight as to how things were at Nike back then. Salazar should be in jail and registered as a sex offender for what he did to her. Period.

By Salazar not taking legal action on what he "didn't do" speaks volumes to what he DID do. I'm pretty sure Salazar would be more than a little pissed if someone from Nike stuck their fingers up his wife's vaginal area.

Can you give that photo of her a permanent black page?

AlSal had a Cuban missile crisis in his pants, but he took care of it lickety-split.

I agree with you! If accusations are true everyone involved to deserve to be punished. In these cases it never seems to be criminal prosecution just lawsuits$$$. She has publicly spoke about everything like forever. What new is her book going to reveal??

If you read the book you can see that Salazar cultivated a strange and insular relationship where he encouraged Kara to only depend on him. He had her confide in and take the advice of their "sport psychologist," who parroted back what he said and broke patient confidentiality, rather than her pro runner husband or her family. He told Amy Yoder Begley that Kara didn't want to room with her and he told Kara Amy didn't want to room with her when they could've been friends as training partners. He kept everyone separate so they wouldn't talk about him and start doubting his ways. Kind of like a cult leader.

That letter reeks of desperation and codependency. Mary Cain wrote a similar letter. Not a coincidence. To this day, Kara expresses gratitude to Des, her podcast cohost now, because she was simply nice to Kara back then. A lot of people weren't and she was self-conscious even then that people thought of her relationship with Salazar as alienating and strange. She could never socialize with any of the other runners.

She also says she loved Rupp like a little brother at the beginning, but then he and Mo Farah were kind of sequestered to themselves with Salazar and she didn't have as much contact with him.

I'm waiting to read it until it shows up in the 99 cents bin.

Should be about a week.

All accusations, no evidence. How come she ran better under Al than others? Did she explain getting Wetmore to send runners to Dr. Brown? Many more athletes at CU pointed the finger at Wetmore than NOP runners did at Al yet she gets a petition to save him. Still can't get over the fact she came out years later in reverse order of serious charges. Why not bring them all out at once? Is like she kept reaching. The book is the final nail in the coffin to simply continue to make a living off the sport. A good but not great runner could not make money on a book without scandal included.

Mary Cain begged Salazar to let her rejoin the group after she left.

Why would she beg to rejoin the group of a coach who (allegedly) sexually assaulted her and (allegedly) called her fat?

It's suspicious that even after Salazar (allegedly) raped or sexually assaulted Kara and Mary they still loved Salazar and wanted to be coached by him. I really don't see an explanation for that other than the fact that Mary and Kara's allegations are totally false.

I would wait until it shows up in the free little neighborhood libraries. 99 cents is too much.

This is perhaps the most damning fact against Kara's allegations. She won a silver medal in the world championship 10k when Galen Rupp was a sophomore at UO.

If Salazar wanted to dope someone to win a gold medal, wouldn't it be Kara?

Absolutely fantastic, really enjoyed it! Eye-opening and I'm glad she shared her experience honestly. Would love to read similar books by other retired pro runners.

Have you ever had a sports massage? I don't know the details of her allegations, but I'm pretty sure a professional female athlete knows the difference between a massage and assault.

I'm guessing you also think that the Team USA gymnasts just 'made it up' because they're 'too stupid' to know the difference/just want the attention away from their stellar careers.

C'mon man. I know there are some liars out there, but Goucher et al certainly have no gain to lie.

It's genuinely hard to explain things like this, because the reasons behind why someone would act this way, even after they have been abused lacks any kind of concrete logic.

But the behavior Kara and Mary exhibited is so common among abuse victims it should be studied if it hasn't already (and it probably has been). It is just simply not a good enough reason that they are lying because they didn't immediately leave.

I don't think either one of them are lying. In fact where Mary is concerned, she has concrete proof a lot of what she is saying happened. Several of her NOP teammates corroborated what happened to her. Several people at the track meet where Salazar screamed at her and called her fat, said they heard it happen. She has the prescriptions of the birth control pills and laxatives he gave to her. Darren Treasure's reputation has been brought to light by several people with stories, not just Mary. It's just not enough to say that because she wanted back in the group for years, she was lying when literally she has a thousand witnesses and evidence saying that she is telling the truth.

Back to my original point, why would someone "go back" to someone who treated them this way? Well, for one, there's a lot of gaslighting involved. We are convinced a lot of this stuff is "tough coaching" when it's really abuse. We are told that men are complex figures when they do horrible things, and not monsters. Alberto injected himself into Kara's life as the missing father figure she didn't grow up with. That's powerful. When he abused her, she wanted to make excuses for him because of how much he meant to her at the time. Admitting then he abused her would mean that she loses yet another father figure.

Mary was the America's Sweetheart of distance running, and her story was tied to Alberto coaching her to unprecedented success. She was bullied off of her high school team. Alberto came in like a savior and she desperately wanted to make it work. At 18 she had no idea how a coach should coach, how a sports psych should be behaving and what it takes. She was convinced by them that she wasn't mature enough, wasn't tough enough, wasn't this or that enough and it was her fault. Put yourself in her shoes. If you were convinced that YOU were the problem, but you desperately wanted to be a solution, you would not walk away thinking you were abused by a world renowned coach. Also she once again did not receive any support from her teammates, further gaslighting her into believing she was the problem.

I am interested in reading Kara’s book. Should I look for it in the fiction, or the nonfiction section?

Lynn Jennings was raped by her coach John Babbington yet she made a deal with the devil to let him coach her because she felt he was the one who could get her to the level she wanted to be at. It's hard to understand.