The same Lauren. in the police report admitting to her husband having prescriptions for EPO and Testosterone. That Lauren.
People attacking Lauren because she told police what her husband did is insanity.
Would you rather she covered it up?
Nobody is attacking Lauren for telling the police what her husband did.
People are pointing out that one of Wiley's coaches (Lauren) has admitted that another one of Wiley's coaches (Nick) had PEDs. I assume you see the problem there.
Obviously, that Nick had PEDs does not prove that Wiley is doping. But it does raise questions about her (former?) coaches. Coaches that Wiley chooses to hang out, and to defend publicly in the strongest possible terms.
You may disagree about whether there's enough smoke here to say there's fire. But you can't seriously claim there's no smoke -- Lauren herself said there was. And given that Wiley chooses to continue to hang with Lauren, you can't claim that none is relevant to her.
Maybe you should stop your distraction campaign and address the issues directly? Accept the facts and explain how they don't mean what the people on the other side say they do.
googling info from experiments that steve magness talked about after being a complicit subject in the experiment himself?
don't get me wrong, nick and lauren are scum, but i really wish people would go after the Johnson's who are legit adults at the center of all of this rather than piling onto a teenager that was literally a child when she got roped into their grooming production.
i find it extremely hard to believe that addy wiley would be doping and getting away with it given the spotlight she's been under since the story broke
Addy is most certainly a victim, and the adults in her life failed her in ways that are incredibly difficult to reconcile.
But how can we not mention her? This is an athlete who ran a 4:26 1600, while playing soccer and basketball, and ran 12 miles a week in XC. She placed 5th at USAs. Doping is doping whether you are 18 or 38. Are we all supposed to turn our heads at the same time?
imagine a boy runs a 2:04 800 his jr year of hs
then sr year runs the following times for 1600, winning each of them by the stated amount: Apr 12th - Mile - 4:42 - 17sec margin of victory May 17th - 1600 - 4:51 - 38sec margin of victory May 24th - 1600 - 4:37 - 30sec margin of victory June 3rd - 1600 - 4:38 - 5sec margin of victory
so he is literally never even challenged
now set up a TT for this kid with a pacer that can handle any pace
right off the bat i'd be thinking "go out at 4:28 pace the first half and then see what happens"
4:26 is not at all shocking when you look at her race results and margins of victory
1500 times for a middle distance runner are typically right around double their 800 time (if they have roughly equal ability at 800/1500), which would point to a 4:08.8 for 1500 or just under 4:27 for 1600
Dopers only get caught if they are tested regularly in and out of competition. Who exactly do you think is drugs testing Wiley? She's a student at an NAIA school. The NAIA (like the NCAA) refuses to join the world anti-doping regime. The NAIA does not have a history of drugs testing -- they only started testing at their championships in 2017! What makes you think they are going to spend money to a spotlight on Wiley?
If she was being tested regularly, don't you think she'd be telling the press that?
Out of competition test 10/11 Post Cross country Nationals Test 11/2 Out of competition test 2/20 Post USATF Road mile 4/25 Out of competition test 5/15 *Plus two passed USADA tests
Interesting. What is the source? And who carried out the tests?
Dopers only get caught if they are tested regularly in and out of competition. Who exactly do you think is drugs testing Wiley? She's a student at an NAIA school. The NAIA (like the NCAA) refuses to join the world anti-doping regime. The NAIA does not have a history of drugs testing -- they only started testing at their championships in 2017! What makes you think they are going to spend money to a spotlight on Wiley?
If she was being tested regularly, don't you think she'd be telling the press that?
Out of competition test 10/11 Post Cross country Nationals Test 11/2 Out of competition test 2/20 Post USATF Road mile 4/25 Out of competition test 5/15 *Plus two passed USADA tests
Being "the most tested college athlete" is not something to be proud of. It means that the drug enforcers are more suspicious of her than of anyone else. Anyone who says her critics are jealous or misguided might want to ask why the pros, the people who know the most are doping, are worried enough to test her this often.
Every time I think it can’t get any worse, it does. How is the administration still in place there? Has the NAIA stepped in to do literally anything? I know some alumni signed a petition after the Indy Star article, but how is there not more outrage? Whole thing is bizarre.
Why would we delete this thread? History often repeats itself . It was newsworthy when we learned a deacde ago that Rupp was often around a coach with access to PEDs and the same is still true today.
Rather than delete it, we have uploaded the PDF to our own server so it can't be deleted.
And sometimes history doesn’t repeat itself…wow…such a poor explanation
you may hate the Johnsons and what that pdf contains but the purpose of the post by the OP is to further bully an young girl/athlete who HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG!
She's 19 years old. An adult. She CHOOSES to work with these coaches. In fact, she decommitted from another school just to be with these coaches. This was a choice she made on her own and she deserves criticism.
Is Huntington a closed off, insular sort of town? It sounds like something out of a movie or TV show. The whole town revolves around the school and a couple of local "heroes" that must be protected at all costs. Consequently, the local authorities and civic leaders do their job in a halfhearted way with wrist slaps, circling the wagons, keeping outsiders at bay, and then "take care of the problem" within the family.
It is interesting that the “high profile” people speaking out are an old NOP coach who has slept with his own athlete (a La Nick) and a couple of has beens clinging to whatever “relevancy” they’ve had.
Careful, I mentioned these tweets in a separate thread and it was deleted by the mods in minutes…..
It’ll likely get restored. There are auto-delete functions that kick in once a thread or post gets reported a certain number of times and given that it’s clear someone is manipulating VPN/IP addresses/cookies to look like multiple people for reporting, commenting, and voting purposes. Rojo talked about this in one of the recent podcasts.