I told you she was past time for retirement. Her 33:35 for the 10k is a 2:37:34 marathon equivalent. Molly is running slower and slower and shorter and shorter races as time goes on after getting denied "TUEs" by the USADA and WADA.
Unfortunately, this is correct. Without all of her TUEs, she is a mediocre runners.
Molly WAS a super star. Her competitive running career is over. She will not represent the US at any future World or Olympic championships. She can still be celebrated for medaling at the Olympics. That can never be taken away from her. However, since that race she has not done anything impressive despite having plenty of time to recover from injuries and mental health concerns. We should stop expecting her to make a comeback. She’s done.
Molly Seidel had the NCAA track credentials and titles. She was dominant in both high school and college. On the cusp of prodigious and "great" but not the best ever.
I sort of view it that Molly went to the "Olympic festival" and did extremely well at the festival. The perfect moment, perfect time for a performance of a lifetime, perfect race. She ran tough, everyone should give her credit. It was a great American moment.
But apart from being the chosen one at this one "Olympic festival", capturing youth American spirit in her moment and a big name on marathon startlists, I never once thought she'd be a super dominant professional runner in everything else. She's just not the World Championships qualifier type for ten years on end. I unfortunately cant see her making a world team at any distance again. This is not meant to take anything away from her impressive career. She's just not made for prototypical professional runner success. She was made for the NY Times hard working barista story (despite growing up in a $2M mansion in a forested elite small town in Wisconsin). When you dissect it all she really had a different entrance into the world level conversation all together. It was sudden, equally happenstance and in the spirit of the olympic festival.
Could you define "superstar". One great result does not make her a superstar. Since then her results have been mediocre. Super stars win marathon majors and olympic medals.
You're getting downvoted for some reason, but I tend to agree. In any other sport you'd be a flash in the pan. Would anybody call Carson Wentz a superstar? He had a great year in which he played a key role in a Super Bowl win, but has been mediocre ever since.
What a BS excuse. What happened to idolizing Molly with "she is great because she doesn't slow down in the heat like other runners in Tokyo"? This is what happens when she is off the PEDs.
new to hearing this...can someone explain the TUE denial that happened. What exactly was she denied?
What a BS excuse. What happened to idolizing Molly with "she is great because she doesn't slow down in the heat like other runners in Tokyo"? This is what happens when she is off the PEDs.
new to hearing this...can someone explain the TUE denial that happened. What exactly was she denied?
Officially, Molly is still refusing she got denied and says her TUEs are still in progress. She wants to be whitelisted to use meth/Adderall in competition which is a huge advantage from those of us that have used stimulants before. That's the part she declares is what is happening but behind the scenes it smells a lot and this is a tip of the iceberg......
In general she hasn't been a super star year in and year out, she just had a really really good stretch from February 2020 through November of 2021. Her running a 33 minute 10k (or high 32 track 10,000m) has been a pretty typical race from her most years. After college from summer 2016 to 2020 olympic trials her best thing was probably a 32:24 track 10,000m to get 8th at the 2018 US championships. That's right, her best race out of her first four years as a pro runner was running 32:24 to be 8th at the USATF championships in a year that there was no world team so the track 10,000m was a little weaker. It was insane that she made the olympic team and even more insane that she won a medal (neither race was a flashy time), she is now closer to her normal performances over the years. Her marathon PR out of 5 marathons is 'only' 2:24:42, probably the slowest marathon PR by far of anyone who has an olympic medal in the past few decades in the marathon, there are a number of women with a faster marathon time that people don't hold as highly as Molly in their minds.
A "Superstar" does not have a marathon PR of about 2:25. That is sub-elite level. Very good but no way a "superstar."
Just curious, what is your marathon PR?? "Sub-elite level" to you, but she has an Olympic medal while you're on here posting nonsense.
if someone can just quickly clarify for me so I don't have to do loads of digging
She applied for and was denied the TUE by WADA within the past year. Was she taking whatever has been denied, when she was competing at/before the Olympics?
She applied for and was denied the TUE by WADA within the past year. Was she taking whatever has been denied, when she was competing at/before the Olympics?
Officially, Molly denied having taken any PEDs at and before the Olympics. Unofficially this reeks of Lance Armstrong where he was taking EPO and testosterone right under the IOC's noses when he competed at the Olympics and none of the drug testing ever returned positive.
her Olympic medal was a fantastic achievement but calling Molly a superstar is a bit of a stretch.
As is the way with LetsRun it’s always polar extremes, sub elite or superstar, there is no middle ground. it’s exactly the same with politics and social issues.
I’m not a fan of Molly. Or Centro really for that matter. But this line of thinking is so dumb, I had to respond. The woman has a bronze medal. She showed up for the big one.
Some people need the bright lights and big stage to perform. Are you gonna try to take away Centro’s gold medal because he never broke 3:30? How many big finals did he run well at?
Running humbles us all at some point. 99.9% of our humbling happens largely in private at a 4th of July 5K or similar….
Centro's PB of 3:30.40 and 3:49.32 in the Mile are wayyyyy different than Molly's 2:24.
For one, even today, Centro's 1500m is the 4th fastest of all-time in the USA. Where as Molly's is 13th in the Marathon.
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