That's comforting to know, Katir is still in fitness.
good luck for the young Laros.
We merged two threads on the same subject into 1. The original thread was entitled, "Mo Katie closes in 1:47.1 to run 3:36, winning euro team champs." We merged it with this thread which was started by LRC's Rojo.
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Appreciation?? wrote:
This isn’t correct. El Guerrouj ran 1:46.70 for his last 800m en route to Athens 1500 Gold with a finishing time of 3:34.18
Abdi Bile allegedly finished a last 800 in 1:46 at some champs.
And this is why champs are meh. Send these guys out slow enough and of course they can do a flying start 1:46.123 -
Here's the link to the video:
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Bad Wigins wrote:
Appreciation?? wrote:
This isn’t correct. El Guerrouj ran 1:46.70 for his last 800m en route to Athens 1500 Gold with a finishing time of 3:34.18
Abdi Bile allegedly finished a last 800 in 1:46 at some champs.
And this is why champs are meh. Send these guys out slow enough and of course they can do a flying start 1:46.
Bile won in 3:36 in 1987. El G going 3:34 in 2004.
Interesting that they didn’t finish in 1:46 in the 2016 Games won in 3:50.
Going out in 2:16 for the first 800 wasn’t slow enough to produce a 1:46 close out?20 -
Ex L wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
Abdi Bile allegedly finished a last 800 in 1:46 at some champs.
And this is why champs are meh. Send these guys out slow enough and of course they can do a flying start 1:46.
Bile won in 3:36 in 1987. El G going 3:34 in 2004.
Interesting that they didn’t finish in 1:46 in the 2016 Games won in 3:50.
Going out in 2:16 for the first 800 wasn’t slow enough to produce a 1:46 close out?Nobody kicked until the last 500 in Rio…
This isn’t as impressive as El G/Lagat of course. They also went 51.91 the last lap and this was 52+ correct?
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First time in 15 months I see him with a more stylish look.
The new bear and the haircut go for him.15 -
kiwis and aussies can fly ! wrote:
I'm picking 2 0r 3 sub 3.30 runners to miss the world champs final . epic racing .. what a season this is turning into .
Who do you think will be in the final, and who will miss out?
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Is the thread title "Katir equals El Guerrouj" intended or unintended irony? An obvious, massive doper in Katir equaling the goat-doper in El G. In addition to the obvious, "a Moroccan Spaniard" might as well be "an East German Russian" for all-time dubiousness.
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Two categories of posters make me laugh every time I see them:
1) Those that write "obvious doper"
2) Those that write:
Runner X will rank 3 with time 3:28:01
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unintended irony? wrote:
Is the thread title "Katir equals El Guerrouj" intended or unintended irony? An obvious, massive doper in Katir equaling the goat-doper in El G. In addition to the obvious, "a Moroccan Spaniard" might as well be "an East German Russian" for all-time dubiousness.
The most obvious thing is that Katir has the best body shape I have seen in all runners of the mile, this added to his style of stride.
He don't look at all like a Nordic running doll.
Without bias.
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Temp__Account wrote:
unintended irony? wrote:
Is the thread title "Katir equals El Guerrouj" intended or unintended irony? An obvious, massive doper in Katir equaling the goat-doper in El G. In addition to the obvious, "a Moroccan Spaniard" might as well be "an East German Russian" for all-time dubiousness.
The most obvious thing is that Katir has the best body shape I have seen in all runners of the mile, this added to his style of stride.
He don't look at all like a Nordic running doll.
Without bias.
Hahahahahahahahaha!
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John Wesley Harding wrote:
abdiiii wrote:
1:46.0, Abdi Bile in 87 World final (1:46.80)
And just for clarity…his split was 1:46.0, and the final time was 3:36.80 which I believe is what was intended for the parenthetical.
Rui Silva actually ran his last 800 slightly faster than El Guerrouj in that 2004 Olympic race for bronze (1:46.3), but had been positioned further back.
Abdi was injured for 4 months that year (December-March) so yes one of the great performances of all time.
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Ex L wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
Abdi Bile allegedly finished a last 800 in 1:46 at some champs.
And this is why champs are meh. Send these guys out slow enough and of course they can do a flying start 1:46.
Bile won in 3:36 in 1987. El G going 3:34 in 2004.
Interesting that they didn’t finish in 1:46 in the 2016 Games won in 3:50.
Going out in 2:16 for the first 800 wasn’t slow enough to produce a 1:46 close out?Of course it was, but they were all CHICKEN to try it. Usually they don't speed up until the bell.
This post was edited 12 minutes after it was posted. Reason provided: Bile didn't do it on purpose either, he just always moves up on the 3rd lap, and someone decided to go with 2 laps out. That Jim Spivey guy who used to post here was in that race, ask him.21 -
M Katir is about 57% of the way there. M Katir just needs to race first 700m, 98.xx seconds.
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Club Runner at Kentucky wrote:
Mkmkl wrote:
What is the fastest ever last 800m in a 1500m?
El Guerrouj closed in 1:46 in the 2004 Olympic Final.
1:46.7, to be precise. But someone else may have been faster over the last 800 in a slower race.
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It is clear that the 1:47.10 is not correct. It is probably 1:48 high.
The splits are full of typos.
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A 1:50.2 close is better than a 1:47.1 close in a 3:27.9 race compared to a 3:36.9 race. But Jakob is smart enough to not let it go that slow
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Jakob just elects to put everyone in oxygen debt. Even he admits his strength is at the 3000m to 2 mile distance. The guy strung out 8 laps average under 59.0 seconds per 400m. Nobody in the world is within 5 to 7 seconds of him at 2 miles. As long as he doesn’t let it dawdle and goes 1:55 or faster the first 800m he will suck the air out of EVERYONES lungs the last 700m…FACT
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Footspeed wrote:
tired of it wrote:
Agreed. This is one of the dumbest narratives and I see it brought up constantly. Jakob is only “slow” relative to someone like Wightman. He is faster than Katir, all the OAC guys, etc. The people suggesting he is the slowest guy in the field, couldn’t break 50 for 400, etc. are idiots.
I think every OAC guy would crush him in an open 200m...
oh well thank goodness jakob does the 1500 instead of the 200
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