Craig Engels calling out other atheltes

this wont prove athletes are innocent but its definitely a nice control to have.

Big fan of Craig BUT:

1- you DON’T need a TUE for levthyroxine or Albuterol. The only way to “prove” you have “clean blood” is to post your declaration form. You’d have to declare it there with all other meds and supplements. And post the form after it’s been submitted- otherwise you could just post it blank as you go through the process.

2- Craig went to NOP after it was made public Salazar was being invested for these exact reasons. He knew and he went. Why the sudden concern now?

Thing is if your coach has you on thyroid boosters and knows how much testerone gel will or won't trigger a positive test then you don't need a TUE and you'd be confident and not need to miss any test.

I like transparency but it is pretty ironic it's a former Salazar athlete posting this sort of thing.

What disrespect did he show her at worlds? My recollection is that he was taken aback because she was very friendly with him during a meal, then said in front of the camera that everyone who trains with Salazar is suspect. Not sure if it was the same interview, but she also then dodged a question about her association with Dr. Brown.

Not sure why everyone keeps referencing Salazar with Engels. Was never coached by him and Pete's team was nearly separate from Galen, Murphy, Sifan and Yomif. Very little crossover and interaction. Plus, Bowerman has actually has someone busted, Salazar didn't. Go after them #Shelburrito

Can someone post a screenshot of this for those of us who do not have Instagram?

The line of "So and so was a Pete Julian athlete" is the worst copium from NOP fans who want to still like *insert their favourite athlete here.* Craig and everyone else ran for the Nike Oregon Project: whose co-founder and head coach was Alberto Salazar. Fact is Craig (and Konstanze + Brazier) joined a team publicly known to be in the hot seat for pushing the rules and that team was run by Alberto.

Anyway, I'll just quote Craig who said "we're the same team we can't disassociate ourselves" and that he supported Alberto in his case and his appeal.

Look, I don't hate Craig, and I don't even mind he's doing this USADA thing, I just find it funny that he ran for the club whose head coach got banned and was famous for grey area (or worse) methods that would circumvent the very things Craig is holding up right now.

A TUE in and of itself is not an issue, an unnecessary and performance enhancing TUE is the issue. Also, don't expect athletes to start posting their whereabouts status; if not most, many clean athletes have had a whereabouts failure. If you understand how the system works, it is not difficult to miss one, that's why you are given 3 chances. Missing 2 is problematic and missing 3 in a 12-month period should not happen and justifiably triggers a ban. I contend, 3 whereabouts failures does not absolutely conclude someone is doping; however, at that point you have lost the presumption of innocence.

a) Salazar was the head coach.

b) Salazar had Decker busted.

c) Salazar doped himself too with testosterone (see b)) - but didn't get busted.

d) Salazar got banned for three different doping offenses (forbidden method + testo + tampering).

e) Well I won't go there...

In conclusion, people here should really stop defending that creepy cheater.

Shelburrito, lol, of course she never revealed her testing history.

I agree with the TUE part, but every missed test is problematic imho. Lots of athletes have confirmed that they never missed a test. And of course in today's system, you may miss 20 tests in 10 years without any punishment whatsoever.

Certainly whereabouts failures should be public. I wouldn't want to create a system whereby the public disclosure of medication causes some people to refrain from taking certain drugs and therefore not get the help they need -- for example mental health drugs. I don't know what kind of drugs require TUEs though. Do certain kinds of mental health drugs require TUEs?

Good initiative, but I'm not sure I like the "challenge your favourite athlete" part. There are athletes with demonstably valid TUEs that, if they posted their profile, would open themselves to speculation based on medical conditions they cannot control. Furthermore, many athletes have one whereabouts violation and it does not necessarily mean that they missed the test on purpose as Craig seems to think necessarily has to be the case. Furthermore such clean athletes with 1 missed tests are often already transparent about it, for example when Coleman was banned Trayvon Bromell and Tianna Bartoletta both admitted that they had missed one test (for genuine reasons) but that to let it get to three and being careless and arrogant after the fact is unacceptable.

I know of an athlete with genuine thyroid problems that left them unable to physically do their event for 3 years, I wouldn't like it if they were pressured into posting their TUEs and having a significant amount of people not believe them.

Furthermore, some TUEs are needed for psychoactive drugs, e.g. Tyra Gittens forgot to renew her TUE for ADHD medication and received a short suspension after testing positive for ritalin. Such TUEs for ADHD/anxiety meds etc. are nothing to be ashamed of.

ADHD meds are PEDs. Fact. Having some athletes have a legitimate reason for a TUE doesn't change that.

The title is a little misleading. He's not calling OUT other athletes, he's calling ON other athletes.

BASED

Has anyone forwarded it onto the On coffee club podcast insta?

If everyone did that they would have to respond or look guilty as hell

Track Coach??

Are you also among those top level Track Coaches that knows all aspects of training methods and diet and physiology and recovery and race preparation? ...but have never heard of Nandrolone??