Getting cut from D3 team?

Did the other thread about the D3 kid skipping practice and getting kicked off the team get deleted?

I agree, don't go over your coaches head, he will resent you; try to work with your coach.

This sounds like a good plan. I'm sorry this is happening to you. Try to see if you can work something out. With your current PBs, you can run 26:xx. You just gotta figure out what's important to you in terms of summer training. If you want to focus on getting ready for track that'll look different from getting ready for the 8k. It looks like there's room to improve your endurance. Resist the urge to train too hard because of the frustration. Good, consistent, summer miles & strength workouts will get you ready for whatever you want to focus on. You can run meets unattached, and maybe finish ahead of some of the guys coming in.

I also feel sympathy for you, OP. I ran DIII at a bottom-of-the-conference school and we never cut anybody if they put in the work. We would have been thrilled to have you.

Having said that, he can’t *really* stop you from going on easy runs with the team on non-workout days right? You could even clear that with the coach in advance, I don’t believe it would be a problem.

also, like another person wrote, it might be a good season to try ultimate frisbee if you can get your handling up to a decent spot. You’ll be doing plenty of sprinting and strength training. If you keep up good mileage otherwise, it might end up being *better* than XC for your 1500 times (our best 1500 runner on the women’s side played soccer in the fall).

Good luck,

Yes it did

This time it ain't just about being fast.

Is it going over their head if you've already spoken to them?

Did you attend or run at a D3 school? Chances are the kids already knows the AD.

Also once again, and let me reiterate my point, D3 is all about having numbers as a school. It's all about enrollment, retention, and graduation rate. Small schools are struggling the most post-pandemic.

It's dumb antics like that in the business world "afraid to go over their head" "fear of resentment"

Shut up and get over the fragile ego some of you have for some god forsaken reason. If there is a problem, come up with a direct solution. I.E. Coach being like "ah this is D3 we have a 'roster' limitation" is a total lie. The Athletic departments at D3 schools get extra funding for students who are enrolled in the school and participate in the program, or in simple terms, pays for the coaches salaries.

It's like CTE students in high school. Schools get a certain $$ amount per student enrolled in the course. Have a high enrollment number = job security.

It doesn't matter if you are the best coach in the world, and win multiple national champion and conference titles, if you don't have the funding to even have a position.

But what do I know. I'm just a buster posting on letsrun.

Same story here. 27s as a sophomore, 25s as a junior. Ended up as a sub-15 5k guy.

Some schools DO have roster limits...when I was running the WIAC...as a conference...limited men's cross country rosters to 24...and as was pointed out prior some schools in the WIAC instituted stricter limits than that.

I don't know if this is the case with the OP's school/conference...but D3 schools can have roster limits.

Yeah, kid got basically doxxed. No self-awareness rich kid who cried on LR, then got owned by other people on the team saying that he was a creep and a weirdo.

Good advice.^

At your age you likely still have so much upside and improvement ahead. Asking the coach what level he needs to see will show them your motivation, and also help organize a great summer of training with a couple of races. If you're 16:1x, aim to put down a 15:xx and pencil in a few races to shoot for that. At the very least you'll continue to build great fitness chasing that.

I really can't see why a coach would cut an XC runner who has already been a part of the team, especially someone who they will be welcoming for track in the spring. We all know what a great base XC lays for a 1500 runner, and frankly most college students aren't going to put in the same work through the summer/fall without a team.

That's very interesting! When did you run in the WIAC?

would they lay that out in the by-laws set forth by the conference? I just spent some time and went through their very vague 44 page handbook of by-laws and such and couldn't find that. So maybe not a conference thing, but a school thing?

Thanks for bringing that insight, I really appreciate it! Guess the OAC just doesn't care. I remember years when teams would have DEEP rosters!

Either way, it seems completely asinine that a D3 coach would try to limit a roster.

But maybe OP's school cares more about recruitment then retention, which if that is the case OP, look for somewhere else!

There are moments that separate us, but we always come back together.

There are still roster limitations in the WIAC. Varies by school. But there is a limit at all WIAC schools I believe.

This is such a dumb take. It's about resources. If you have a limited budget number allowing more men to join over a reasonable amount stretches your resources. It extends to coaching, to the type of food after meets, what meets you can attend, what sort of gear you get, the list goes on. This is not 1983 where a coach has guys hop in 15 passenger vans and gas is .14 per gallon. Kids nowadays expect an experience that is closer to the D1 experience than ever before. Sure, some schools do need numbers for enrollment, but if the team makes cuts it is highly unlikely that particular school does. I'd rather have a small roster and be able to get into big meets and not have Kwik Trip after every meet. And having more team gear than a cotton t-shirt.