I don't get the hate on the time of 3:50. He WON the Oly's fair and square. The other guys could have implemented many different tactics but they didn't. Centro won, everyone else lost. I don't care if it's a 6:00 1,500m. The winner is the winner and everyone else lost. Get over the time, Centro won the Oly's, beating a very strong field in doing so.
Of course I don't disagree with your statement. If Jakob runs in a way that that utilizes none of his strengths then he will lose, holy moly, what an insight! I will follow your example and post more brilliant thoughts: if Jakob stays at the start line for 30 seconds then he will get "Six Different Kinds of Dog Sh1t kicked out of him". Woah! Who knew?
So then why should anyone criticize Centro for winning in a way that suited his strengths?
How would I know? I didn't criticize Centro for running to his strengths, I criticized the other men in the race who allowed him to do so.
I don’t get it. The USA went over 100 YEARS without an Olympic champion in the men’s 1500.
3:50
What does that mean? 3:50 what?
Is there a rule or standard that I missed which requires a minimum time effort for winning? There seems to be a shift in today's runners and their coaches with regard to running fast and winning. One would think both are linked, but not necessarily so. Obviously, the faster you run the probability of winning increases, but this isn't always the case. In order to be a successful elite world class runner you need to know how to RACE, and not just run fast times. Today's runners are lacking this crucial skill. Perfect conditions, pacing lights, pacers, time incentives, etc.... are all great, but none require understanding race tactics and or strategy to win championship races. In case you're not aware, shoe contracts pay more for winning than for running fast.
A simple definition:
"Competition of speed in which the competitors start equidistant to a certain point that all racers attempt to reach".
If you read the above definition it mentions "speed", but not overall time. Speed can be applied at any point during the race, in the beginning, in the middle, and or the end. The whole objective is to get to from point A to point B first using the best strategy to do so. Championship racing is NOT time trialing or trying to set world records, its trying to WIN...PERIOD! Matt won the Olympic Gold Medal using the BEST strategy to win that race...PERIOD!
Why is this so confusing? Matt's 1500m PB is world-class and is regarded as such and would've won the 1500m at various Olympics, so are his 800m and 5000m PB's. So its not like the guy isn't fast and can't run quality times.
I think its time to stop bashing his Olympic win because he ran 3:50, and start appreciating what an amazing achievement he accomplished.
Meanwhile, people revere Jakob, who has a similar personality as Centro and his own set of questionable tattoos. Why?
They're really not similar at all.
Jakob has an authentic Chad swagger that makes him look cool.
Centro is more like a manlet who tries way too hard to look badass. Comes off as so phony and annoying.
And as bad as Jakob's tats are... somehow Centro's are worse.
Ingebrigtsen is a loser. If he had any talent he would be playing in one of Europes top football leagues. If Haaland was a runner he would easily beat his times whilst also being a great footballer.
Anyone whining about the slow time is likely just a bad runner who has a poster of Prefontaine on his wall. I remember a kid in conference champ 1500 back in the day who literally yelled at us all mid-race because nobody was "making the race honest." He proceeded to take off and lead for the 2nd and 3rd laps until we all blew his doors off in the last 200. Like dude, you're going to lose whether we run 3:45 or 3:55. At least when we run 3:55 it looks like you were at least sort of in the race
You are critical of my writing style but you do not disagree with gist of my post. M C raced final 700m in about 93.1 seconds, 2016 Olympics, 1500m final. Give J I a day or two off, an ice tub or a warm bath, whatever J I prefers. J I is barely capable of 93.1 700m under any conditions. As I stated: J I would get Six Different Kinds of Dog Sh1t kicked out of him in that type of 1500m race.
Of course I don't disagree with your statement. If Jakob runs in a way that that utilizes none of his strengths then he will lose, holy moly, what an insight! I will follow your example and post more brilliant thoughts: if Jakob stays at the start line for 30 seconds then he will get "Six Different Kinds of Dog Sh1t kicked out of him". Woah! Who knew?
In that field, even if Jakob ran to his strengths, he gets the sh** kicked out of him.
As a 3:28 1500m, he would’ve had a PR roughly equal to about the half the field. If he led from the start, he gets beat badly. Now, if you had a Stewie McSewyn as a rabbit, he finishes better.
How fast did Lordy Sebbers win those 1500s in? How 'bout Asbel (who also didn't even win his gold and only got it in the mail when, ironically, Ramzi got popped)? Makh daddy's time? Y'all get what I'm sayin'. No one gives a rat's @$$ what the clock says when cross the line at the Olympics!
I like what Centro said about the time in this interview. He figured he'll be remembered more than some other 1500 champs because the race was so slow.
Irrelevant in a tactical final..... faster than the women's world record in spite of the Tactical nature...... plus you try running a 50 second final lap when the chips are down and the stakes are high
tells a lotta interesting stories about his dad chewing him out, Hicham El G recognizing him as talented from a young age, and the race delay that ultimately helped him win Olympic gold.
No one outside of this forum has ever heard of him.
Doesn't matter. Anyone who asks him what his deal is will be impressed by an Olympic gold medal.
And as the podcast points out, it's in running, which has the lowest bar of entry of any sport. He beat everyone in the world, not a few specialists in golf or skiing or triathlon. He won the premier event of the most elemental sport.
tells a lotta interesting stories about his dad chewing him out, Hicham El G recognizing him as talented from a young age, and the race delay that ultimately helped him win Olympic gold.
I have a career that requires a Master's Degree for the most part. As a former miler myself if I saw Centro walking through the halls as a new hire, I would be very disappointed in my organization. Centro I would not be surprised to see him at some random road races talking about his BS 1500m win in 2016, which will be probably the crowning point of his life. If I had won an Olympic medal too be honest it would probably be the least thing I would talk about at this point in my life and I am barely in my 40's!
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