Free Salazar wrote:
The Washington Post is the only newspaper that does it; the WSJ and the NYT don't. Fox and CNN also do it
NY Times does and has since 2020
Guess what so does Fox News
I am going to guess CNN does as well.
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samcallan wrote:
Journalists often follow the AP Style Guide and it made the change in July 2020.
Dude could have just messaged his J-school pals to ask them about it, amirite?
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There is something very fitting that a thread started by Rojo in the knowledge that it would bring out the usual racists has been sabotaged by someone posting m@ga and ‘Rojo watches gay porn’ repeatedly.
Congrats Rojo you’ve finally got the message board YOU deserve.
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Louiseanna wrote:
There is something very fitting that a thread started by Rojo in the knowledge that it would bring out the usual racists has been sabotaged by someone posting m@ga and ‘Rojo watches gay porn’ repeatedly.
Congrats Rojo you’ve finally got the message board YOU deserve.
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Black Ketttle wrote:
Louiseanna wrote:
There is something very fitting that a thread started by Rojo in the knowledge that it would bring out the usual racists has been sabotaged by someone posting m@ga and ‘Rojo watches gay porn’ repeatedly.
Congrats Rojo you’ve finally got the message board YOU deserve.
I’m not upset in the slightest. It is kinda wonderful actually.
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he may have aspirated on his vomit idk
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Louiseanna wrote:
Black Ketttle wrote:
I’m not upset in the slightest. It kinda wonderful actually.
oh yeah that was for rojo, not you!
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Do you know how many unarmed black males are killed by police each year?
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I stated that the Washington Post, along with Fox and CNN, are the only ones that also capitalize 'white'.
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Free Salazar wrote:
Do you know how many unarmed black males are killed by police each year?
No but you do, it’s twirling around in your head 24/7 you weirdo.
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McRunnin wrote:
You’re almost 3 years late to the conversation. The Associated Press made this change in its writing style guide in June of 2020:
I don't think the question is which agenda-driven organization is responsible, but why.
And the tone of the question is more wtf than wanting a serious explanation.
I would suggest pushing back on journalists who try to manipulate the public's use of language. Not their job.27 -
This is the reason I asked. The real answer is 10-15.
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Free Salazar wrote:
Do you know how many unarmed black males are killed by police each year?
Do you know how many unarmed male police are killed by blacks each year?
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The irony of rojo using scare quotes around the word "journalists" is more than I can take.
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BLM!! wrote:
Precious Roy wrote:
Capitalization is a function of grammar, not punctuation. Unless you have been living under a rock, the race relations implications of a White man strangling to death a homeless Black man who was having a mental health episode in the wake of George Floyd are indisputable. Black male suspects get shot, beaten, tazed, strangled, and suffocated at much higher rates than White male suspects because racist police believe that Black men are inherently more dangerous. Neely was yelling about being hungry and having no food. He threw his jacket down on the subway. Penny admitted to law enforcement that Neely never threatened him and that he came up from behind Penny to put him into a choke hold that he learned from MMA fighting. There were a couple of men who were right on top of Neely and Penny who could have helped hold Neely down or at least contain him and get him off the subway so law enforcement could step in. But Penny would not release his choke hold, even as Neely went limp. Penny kept the choke hold on for 15 minutes. Anyone with MMA or military hand to hand combat training knows that once someone goes to "sleep" as the result of a choke hold, they need to be immediately released from the choke hold and given medical intervention or else they could suffer brain damage or die. Neely defecated himself and a bystander warned Penny that he was going to kill Neely. But Penny kept the choke hold on him.
Would Penny have put a choke hold on a White guy? Would he have held on to a White guy until he stopped moving and defecated himself? Or would have bystanders given him some food if he was White?
Maybe black people should try committing fewer crimes if they don't want to encounter police.
It's actually not the encounters themselves (though there are probably a disproportionate number, depending on where you live). It's the beating and the shooting that too often results from such encounters, then the lying about it. Decade upon decade of it with little or no accountability.
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Real Obvi wrote:
SB wrote:
It didn't make you wonder when the things in bold are precisely what cops claim made them beat or kill Black people after the fact?
If we control for the fact that cops regularly lie about their violent encounters with Black people (and we can reasonably do this, based on evidence from many, many, police beatings and shootings of Black people that were caught on camera), then this study would indicate that cops disproportionate mistreat Black people.
That may be.
On the other hand, the bolded text is critical to your argument. And it leaves out a very important unknown - unknown to me, at least. Do cops regularly lie about their violent encounters with everyone? I suspect that they do.
I wouldn't argue. They are no doubt also brutal to poor white people, then lie about it to protect themselves. But I would say: one, that it's easier to prove that they habitually lie about encounters with Black people than with white people; and two, that the amply documented history of racist policing in the US lends a certain plausibility to the suggestion that they probably lie more about the things they do to Black people.
And while we're on the subject of race, policing, and incarceration in the US, the country would still have the highest rate of incarceration in the world even if every Black inmate were released from jail tomorrow. Black and White, policing and jailing people in the US seems to be the (non) solution to just about everything. And yet it continues to be winning argument politically, on both sides.
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Dave37 wrote:
The irony of rojo using scare quotes around the word "journalists" is more than I can take.
Not seeing any reason why he's wrong.
Get triggered again: journalists should use the same language as the readers. It's not their business to invent new language for them. This is activism, not journalism.23 -
fasciz wrote:
Free Salazar wrote:
Do you know how many unarmed black males are killed by police each year?
Do you know how many unarmed male police are killed by blacks each year?
Spoiler alert - it’s practically zero.
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Having high incarceration keeps society safe. Just look at what woke DAs have done to cities: the New York subways are unsafe, Chicago's downtown has out of control crime now and felons with illegal guns just get a slap on the wrist, Baltimore has the highest murder rate of big cities in the nation, etc.
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The amount of censorship on this thread lol.
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