I'll admit, it's a pretty good time for a recreational runner.
A healthy 37 year old with billions and likely the ability to set aside an hour 3-4 days per week to run, should be able to break 20. Still, it's a pretty solid performance.
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If a person can create a company, score high SAT, maneuver people, market, program, stab backs and innovate, they can surely direct the will to train their body to do amazing feats; but alas most people will not be able to step out of their comfort zones, especially once they’ve already begun to rest on their past accomplishments
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That is solid. I'm 58 now, and that time is probably beyond me any more, so I appreciate the speed of it, especially from a guy without a competitive running background.
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He is about 5'7" and is pretty into fitness and running. He says that he has been doing more MMA and Jujitsu recently because he thinks too much about work when running. But he obviously has a personal trainer and has a light frame. I would bet that he has been working at this for a year or two pretty hard and did not just do a couple of workouts to get this done. But publicly, he will try to make it look like is was easy peasy.
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Genuine question:
if he paid for a full time endurance coach, an s&c coach a full time Physiotherapist, a full time nutritionist, paid for a squad of 10 plus runners to train with daily and trained at altitude on as many miles as possible for a year, what would he run?
I’m saying 15.15, maybe 14.30 a year after that.
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Jogger262 wrote:
I'll admit, it's a pretty good time for a recreational runner.
A healthy 37 year old with billions and likely the ability to set aside an hour 3-4 days per week to run, should be able to break 20. Still, it's a pretty solid performance.
He is not allowed to post here. He passes the hot wife and above $250K threshholds but doesn't quite manage the 14 minute 5K. Sorry Mark.
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Even for larger non targeted events...e.g. for the Paris French Half, which was a large event not focused on competitive runners, you had more than 700+ people under 1h20 for the half, which is already leagues better than a sub 20 5km...
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Let's settle this once and for all. Here's footage of the race.
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short course though bro
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yurp wrote:
17 runners sub20 in a field of 1113, only in the US...
Would you be more impressed if 17 out of 113 were sub 20, and the other 1000 stayed home?
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But what shoes was he wearing? Was he Vaporflying it or casually using an old pair of Brooks Ghosts?
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RobDragons wrote:
KeenOnKeely wrote:
It is impressive given that it's unlikely he would have the time to do much mileage. Where would he do it anyway, given that he can hardly pound the pavements around town every day.
Exactly, at 38 years old with no extensive running experience, it is impressive to hammer out a 19:34. Even an experienced 38 year old who ran 15's in his earlier days, would still need a minimum base of 20-30 to do a 19. you can fake 8 minute miles for a 5k, but hard to fake 6 minute miles for a 5k without some training.
I disagree.
I had major foot surgery in Jan 2021 age 37. I was in a cast for six weeks, and could hardly bear any weight on that leg for another six weeks afterwards.
I wasn't a bad runner prior to that but certainly never got into the 15s - my 5km PB was 16:21 about five years prior.
My first parkrun back n August 2021, seven months after the surgery, with barely any running since, was 19:00. The week after I did 18:31.014 -
yurp wrote:
17 runners sub20 in a field of 1113, only in the US...
Most of the good runners raced on Saturday. There was a regional USATF 4-mile race the day before (slow course).
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I was assuming it was short. So Zuck would DESTROY me in a 5k? This is depressing. I don't care if he's a decade younger than me.
The only thing I've got over him is we actually offer a phone number to call if you have a problem with our website. That and no one is blaming me for the fact that the moronic and super old Trump and Biden were elected president.
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rojo wrote:
I was assuming it was short. So Zuck would DESTROY me in a 5k? This is depressing. I don't care if he's a decade younger than me.
The only thing I've got over him is we actually offer a phone number to call if you have a problem with our website. That and no one is blaming me for the fact that the moronic and super old Trump and Biden were elected president.
I don't believe he did this.
He was over 30 minutes a few years ago and I posted him claiming in 2022 he was not running anymore
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G Cup wrote:
RobDragons wrote:
Exactly, at 38 years old with no extensive running experience, it is impressive to hammer out a 19:34. Even an experienced 38 year old who ran 15's in his earlier days, would still need a minimum base of 20-30 to do a 19. you can fake 8 minute miles for a 5k, but hard to fake 6 minute miles for a 5k without some training.
I disagree.
I had major foot surgery in Jan 2021 age 37. I was in a cast for six weeks, and could hardly bear any weight on that leg for another six weeks afterwards.
I wasn't a bad runner prior to that but certainly never got into the 15s - my 5km PB was 16:21 about five years prior.
My first parkrun back n August 2021, seven months after the surgery, with barely any running since, was 19:00. The week after I did 18:31.
#1 Mark was never a 16:21 runner, this 19:34 is his PR by a long ways.
#2 You probably run more miles in a year than Mark has run in his life.
It is easier for a 16 minute talent to run 19 than to drop down to 19 at age 38 for the first time.
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free body diagrams wrote:
But what shoes was he wearing? Was he Vaporflying it or casually using an old pair of Brooks Ghosts?
cotton t shirt tucked into a pair of vintage Utah Jazz John Stockton game worn shorts, tube socks and a pair of old Nike Cortez. Converts to sub 14 in super shoes.
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Too close to call wrote:
claims all 4 of these guys broke 20 lmao
No offense to these guys, but how on earth did everyone in this picture beat Hellahgood's 5k PR?
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Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
yurp wrote:
17 runners sub20 in a field of 1113, only in the US...
Would you be more impressed if 17 out of 113 were sub 20, and the other 1000 stayed home?
I would. The popularity of running among people no good at it is mystifying. Slow runners are mainly slow because they'd be better weightlifters, football players, wrestlers.
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