Lia Thomas has words for her haters…

It’s high because it’s a mental illness

It makes it sound like most women love to bathe in the piss and poo and blood and squirt juices of other women in public restrooms that are by default vile places unless well maintained, but all this has nothing to do with trans.

The solution is so simple.

Get rid of the mens divsion and just call it open. Anyone can compete, regardless of sex, gender identity etc etc.

Then leave the womens division exactly as it should be, for female at birth, or intersex at birth who have reduced their testosterone levels to that of the allowable limits.

Do the same with bathrooms.

I really don't care how any adult wants to identify, the but the womens division descriminates against men for very good reasons.

As for bathrooms, if the argument is a transgender person doesn't feel comfortable in the men's bathrooms, then imagine how women feel when that transgender person is swinging their hammer around in the womens bathroom. Safe spaces for women are important, and regardless of how you idendify, if you still have all your man parts, you are not a woman.

And for all those who claim the numbers are small and this isnt a problem, its not about just today. Its about setting rules now so that 10 years from now women still have the rights they fought so hard for, and that womens sport is not the mens B division.

All of that also is true about Semenya.

Plus I guarantee you when women were trying to get men to allow them into sports to begin with, there were haters who were saying "why bother, there aren't even that many women who want to play sports in the first place!" And it probably seemed true to some people, but it was because women had no opportunities to play, not because they didn't have any interest. The pro-transwomen-in-women's-sports crowd is using the same fuzzy logic. If anyone's full take is "the numbers are low, who cares," they should just step away from the debate and let people who do care, on both sides, hash it out.

You got it wrong. Caster could compete if she lowers her t-level to 2.5 nmol/L.

Thomas is banned from all the competitions sanctioned by World Aquatics or USA Swimming.

There is literally zero evidence of a causal relationship between trans-identity and suicide, or that being denied the right to medically transition increases the rate of suicide. In fact, I bet if you could do that study, you'd find the opposite: that in the long term, socially and/or medically transitioning actually INCREASES the long term risks of depression and suicide.

The more plausible explanation in my mind is that severe depression correlates with trans identity. Depressed people grasp for any possible explanation/solution to the terrible feelings they experience, and one explanation that has gained traction is that they were born in the wrong body, and all their problems will vanish if only they transition.

For literally every other body-image type problem, we all know the healthiest solution is to learn how to accept who you are and be thankful for the body you were given. But somehow for gender, the best solution is to take very serious drugs and mutilate your body.

Nope, both intersex and trans have been recognized literally for millennia in several ancient cultures, well before body dysmorphia or fatphobia etc. were a thing, so those conditions are not comparable; and there is no practical way to prove causality for any number of other physiological maxims we take for granted, so that criticism is meaningless.

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Transphobia Verbosa’s got nothing else going on. It’s also trying to publish a transphobic book that no publisher wants to touch not in the least because the draft is 63,566 pages, repetitive, and self-contradictory.

I love how desperate you are to make this catch on and how wholly unsuccessful you've been.

Can’t possibly care about your wholly imagined delusions.

You are painting with way-too broad a brush. Many of us lefties disagree with trans people competing in the women's category. Also, many of the women who are victimized by this are strong-woman-feminists. I hope you can put aside your Fox News myopia. On this issue, we are all on the same side.

And what passes or "hate" these days is much, much, much, more often mere disagreement.

Chris Mosier.

I wonder if he gets banned will he go back to identifying as a man?

Exactly.

I have posted time and time again that I am a liberal and I want to preserve the space that many of us have fought for; a space for XX humans to be able to compete against each other, fairly and without the disruption of XY humans.

"The right" is missing an opportunity here. Instead of bashing the "lefties" they should be saying "There clearly is bipartisan support for protecting sports for girls and women. On this issue, people on the right and left agree."

Why keep lashing out at a bunch of people, like me, who agree on the position?

Ha, how inverted. It’s the transapathetic that explicitly or implicitly subscribe to the small-numbers argument to justify their apathy, not the transympathetic that care about the dignity and equity of opportunity for all people however small their numbers in the population.

I post in threads about other topics too. But you see me a lot in threads about males in women's sports and spaces because my main interest and expertise is in women's rights, broadly speaking (ha ha) - and in doing my bit to continue women's centuries-long battle against sexism, sex discrimination, sex stereotypes, male entitlement, male violence against women and girls, and male supremacy and domination of us.

I happen to know a great deal about the physical sex differences in humans; human DSDs; girls' and women's physical and mental health; common life experiences that many girls and women have but boys and men don't; child development; the history of women's sports generally and in the US educational context; the history and evolution of the US federal statute known as Title IX; and the cultrual trends, ideology and sports policies that have allowed males with DSDs and now with special gender identities into women's and girls' sports and spaces.

For the record: I grew up in the USA, am a US citizen, and I currently reside in the US. But I went to graduate school at a UK university, have lived and worked in the UK (and some other countries), and spend a fair bit of time in GB.

I post on LRC because like most of the internet, it's a male-dominated place where there's a lot of misogny towards women and girls, but there seems to be even more ignorance about us - and I think the convos could benefit from more input from people of my sex. Especially when the topics under discussion directly affect women and girls and involve a rollback, reduction and/or disregard for our hard-won rights - the way the incursion of males into female sports and spaces and the spread of newly-fashionable gender identity ideology do.

I also post on LRC because it's one of the few places on the internet other than Mumsnet, Ovarit, Lipstick Alley where I am allowed to state the sex of the males who are using gender identity to muscle in on female sports, spaces and services. And where I am also permitted to speak frankly and factually about the XY DSD conditions affecting males and only males that have been such a bone of contention in women's elite athletics and other sports for many years.

Finally, I post on LRC a lot because it gives me a real kick to see how negatively some male posters react to a woman being knowledgable and having views different to theirs - and in some cases, to see how some fellas react negatively to a woman having and voicing views at all.

What I say - and how I go about saying it - clearly sticks in the craw and bothers the bejezus out of some guys here, and I enjoy seeing some of the worst blowhards, misogynists, mansplainers and transplainers get irritated and in some cases apoplectic when a woman speaks her mind and doesn't defer to them.

Or to put that in British English, I get chuffed seeing how shirty some blokes get.