Washington Post Book Review: “Kara Goucher and Lauren Fleshman reveal what’s wrong with women running.”

The title of the thread is not actually the title of the article. And, there's a difference between "what’s wrong with women’s running" and "what’s wrong with women running," to be literal about it (i.e., giving rojo the benefit).

I'm not sold on Lauren Freshman, but Kara Goucher has been speaking out about real issues that do affect women's running, and so has *gasp* Mary Cain.

It's crazy to see some men on here so uncomfortable with a woman speaking up about some of the things in the sport they want to see changed, that they play the whataboutism game, bringing up other runners proclaiming that they 'seem happy!'

It's great that other female runners are doing well, but that doesn't negate what Kara has dealt with and how what she has dealt with still goes on with athletes today.

great, then Rojo could just change the thread title

Fleshman is going through a mid-life crisis and decided we all should be a part of it. Goucher is more legit, but I'm still not impressed with her coming out in defense of Wetmore. She demands to be heard and believed but does not extend that to other women.

"women's running" vs "women running"

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The (majority of) men on this board are absolutely ridiculous. For decades, every time there’s a young female phenom, you flock here to gloat about how she’ll burn out and get fat and be slow.

Then a woman (Lauren Fleshman) writes a book about exactly that: how girls and women develop differently from boys and men - how girls experience success young, and then, often when they get to college, experience body changes and a performance dip that causes them to burn out or get an eating disorder or get injuries or be pushed out of the sport at the same time as men are getting stronger. And now you flock here to screech about how she’s privileged and whining (not having even read the book.) Then you go over to threads on trans/intersex athletes and scream about the performance gap between men and women but god forbid a woman write a book pointing out men and women develop differently, that women aren’t simply slower men, and that training for women should take into account the different bodies and trajectories and needs of women from men.

Kara has a sad story perpetrated by Nike. Lauren just seems like someone that whines in general and ruined her marriage because she decided to change sexuality. The two are not the same.

So the women who are sexually and emotionally assaulted should stfu so you and the other triggered fan boys don't have to deal with reality and can pretend we live in a Leave it Beaver world? MAkes sense

You for got triggered white boys who feel victimized by the truth

Lynn Jennings?

I'm not missing that at all. I just don't believe there's something wrong with "women's running." Running isn't the issue. There's no big running to wage war against. There can be things wrong with people without there having to be a "systemic" issue in possible category of the world. Systemic has become a completely meaningless word that only works to suggest others are too stupid to understand the magnitude of the problem but I'm smart enough to see the big picture.

There's no system at work in the Salazar situation that's different from an abusive or manipulative relationship in any other area of life. Sometimes people fail or have mental health crises or treat each other poorly. If you want to talk "systemic," I'm pointing out that the system is working pretty well right now and the sport is THRIVING compared to any time in US history.

Mary Cain is probably the most gifted prep runner since Jim Ryun and I feel for her that she's struggled but I can't fathom applying the issues of the typical women's runner to the most freakishly talented person to ever do it in our country. Alexi Pappas had a horribly traumatic childhood to the extent that I would never criticize her reactions to it but, again, what does that have to do with running? Allie O had talked about her eating disorder beginning (I think) in middle school, long before the running system got its grasp on her. These stories can all have significance in themselves but none of them impress me as some kind of indictment of the state of women's running. I can promise you right now that there will never be a time in any sport where every significant person participating in that sport is happy and healthy. That doesn't mean everything is inherently broken.

I wasn't suggesting we should write flashy articles about the women you listed, but rather that they're examples of the fact that the sport is pretty cool and producing better successes than ever before. Seems more like "systemic successes" than issues to me if we're bandying narratives around.

And another “ Wetmore “ situation in the UK this week with muirs coach. Wish runners were more like NBA players where they just tell the coach to FU and seek another situation .