This is where the transgender identity is resulting in Nikki not getting the credit Nikki deserves. Nikki is a biological female (and transgender).
Pronoun thing I think is causing some people to think Nikki is a biological male competing as a transgender woman. That is not the case. They is transgender but not even sure if they think of themselves as a transgender man.
All I know is every race day they is in the women's division so I don't think so. Guess it means they doesn't believe in the traditional gender norms, but i never identified sex with how one dresses.
Pronoun thing is over the top. Society could easily tie pronouns to your sex or what division of sport you are competing in.
The sentence above is pretty ridiculous when the average person on the street reads it.
There were a lot of “Nikki is irrelevant” commentary in the now-locked sponsorship thread. Congrats to Hiltz on proving the doubters wrong.
I like Nikki and root for her, but please let us just call her Nikki and stop with the "they" plural stuff which makes no sense. if she doesnt want to identify as a woman or a man, I dont care, that is her business, but the "they" stuff is so annoying.
There were a lot of “Nikki is irrelevant” commentary in the now-locked sponsorship thread. Congrats to Hiltz on proving the doubters wrong.
I like Nikki and root for her, but please let us just call her Nikki and stop with the "they" plural stuff which makes no sense. if she doesnt want to identify as a woman or a man, I dont care, that is her business, but the "they" stuff is so annoying.
You quoted me but I just referred to her as Nikki or Hiltz (or Hiktz in my typo thread title).
There were a lot of “Nikki is irrelevant” commentary in the now-locked sponsorship thread. Congrats to Hiltz on proving the doubters wrong.
For whatever reason Nikki decided to come out as trans-gender identifying in an era where track and fields integrity was at risk with many cases of intersex athletes dominating women's mid distance events.
It confused the hell out of many people; and I think Nikki should have just said: I'm a biological female but I prefer they/them pronouns because I don't always feel like a woman or *whatever their reasons are*
And then most of these annoying comments could be cleared up. Like cmon people we all know what Nikki means this doesn't really need to be discussed. Sure it's a bit annoying but come onnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Please explain to this ordinary male. The non-binary issue confuses me. Bi.nar.y as defined means relating to or composed of two things. If one claims to be non-binary isn't that mute since a person is one thing? Aren't we all non-binary? Unless of course you only run on one leg?
Nonbinary individuals do not identify as female OR male, aka the gender binary.
It’s not that hard to get the pronouns- try it in your head a bit to practice. :)
Nikki cares about announcers getting their pronouns right on air bc it’s rude not to (imagine if you misgendered Sage Hurta-Klecker, would be super weird!), but also because they have a massive following of trans and nonbinary youths who are watching. That’s a group that’s super vulnerable to depression, harassment, isolation and tragically suicide. So it does matter. And Nikki is super nice, not angry or mean about it, so relax.
Trans and nonbinary people exist, just do your best to accept them like you would anyone else!
I'm gonna assume that you do not understand grammar and that you aren't trying to be a bigot. They/them can be singular. Think about if you found a set of keys on the ground, you could rightfully say "Oh no someone lost their keys, I hope it gets back to them". You probably use they/them as a singular pronoun all the time without realizing it.
I agree that in your example when the individual or individuals are not known and if you do not know if it is one or more individuals "they" can be used. However, when describing the winner of a race the person and number of people are known. "They" implies a team/relay effort. If "they" is acceptable to describe a single competitor, then why do the announcers only use it to describe a self-described non-binary person. Using your explanation, all winners can be referred to as "they" but I have never seen/heard it used that way.
Not only will they lose a payday, it will be the last time Hiltz has a chance compete as a professional runner. A race director will not invite runners that might, or might not, show up and sponsors pay their athletes to compete.
How does they race against men anyway? Would you expect Hiltz, if necessary, to look for an all-comers meet the same day as a WC trials final.