Go Pro Now Tuohy!

Helen Enny · 2023-02-12T11:03:26-05:00

She needs to go pro now. There will never be a time that her stock will be this high. Runners get injured. Runners get burned out. Runners plateau. Her 3000 performance is by far the best thing she has done. I think she could get a 5 year deal worth $200K per year right now. It is easy to finish school while running professionally. Be smart. It didn't work out well for King Ches.

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3 years ago 02/12/2023 3:36pm EST

re: Wise Old Man

Wise Old Man wrote:
She’s thriving now and having a great time, BUT she could do better as an athlete and in terms of $. Does she really need to win more NCAA titles and set more collegiate records? No, rip up her NIL deal, sign with On, move to Boulder and train with Monson and Ritz at altitude. She’ll make huge $ and be on the world’s team THIS year. Sure, she can wait through the fall and win NCAA xc again and then move on in time for Paris, but I think she should strike while the iron is hot. Honestly, the NCAA is child’s play for her now.

Would love to see her train with On. Andrews is training with Monson now, and might move up to 5k. Undecided. Making the 5k team this summer will be very, very competitive.

Otoh, Didn't Rupp and Simpson train for / make worlds teams while still in school? Maybe she just needs to take outdoors off and focus on training for worlds. Maybe she could move to altitude and do her classes remote.

I get the sense though that Tuohy will run NCAA outdoors with her team

3 years ago 02/12/2023 4:00pm EST

re: money talker

money talker wrote:
No. She is likely to sign with a different sponsor soon. They wouldn't given her a long term NIL or insurance against injury. They are paying for her name for a year.

Good info, so she's a free agent 1/1/24? Do you think Adidas will fight to keep her?

3 years ago 02/12/2023 4:10pm EST

re: money talker

money talker wrote:
Why would we forget the money? That is silly. If somebody was going to pay her a bazillion dollars to go pro and it would hamper her development, so what?

Apparently my post went over your head a bit.

3 years ago 02/12/2023 4:52pm EST

re: Helen Enny

You people complain about Kofuzi and his Go Pro all the time, now you want Tuohy to use one? It's one thing to carry a 5-foot pole during a marathon and completely another to carry one on a track. Seriously, somebody could get hurt!

3 years ago 02/12/2023 5:29pm EST

re: Rundom

Any companies who want to sponsor her would want her to stay in college!!!

She's getting way more exposure as a college athlete than she would if she turned pro...

I'm sure Adidas wants her to stay in school... And if another company wanted to sponsor her as well I'm sure they would too

She wouldn't have gotten newly as much attention yesterday if she was a pro athlete but breaking the college record gets a lot of attention

As well when she runs national championships and during the cross-country season is much more attention than she would as a distance runner in the fall

3 years ago 02/12/2023 6:29pm EST

re: Ezrun

Ezrun wrote:
Any companies who want to sponsor her would want her to stay in college!!!
She's getting way more exposure as a college athlete than she would if she turned pro...
I'm sure Adidas wants her to stay in school... And if another company wanted to sponsor her as well I'm sure they would too
She wouldn't have gotten newly as much attention yesterday if she was a pro athlete but breaking the college record gets a lot of attention
As well when she runs national championships and during the cross-country season is much more attention than she would as a distance runner in the fall

3 years ago 02/12/2023 6:49pm EST

re: Ezrun

3 years ago 02/12/2023 10:05pm EST

re: Ezrun

No other shoe company is giving her an NIL deal becuase she is sponsored by Adidas. And she would get way more by being a pro. They can pay for performance.

3 years ago 02/12/2023 10:12pm EST

re: Ezrun

Ezrun wrote:
Any companies who want to sponsor her would want her to stay in college!!!
She's getting way more exposure as a college athlete than she would if she turned pro...
I'm sure Adidas wants her to stay in school... And if another company wanted to sponsor her as well I'm sure they would too
She wouldn't have gotten newly as much attention yesterday if she was a pro athlete but breaking the college record gets a lot of attention
As well when she runs national championships and during the cross-country season is much more attention than she would as a distance runner in

💯💯💯💯 even when she ran millrose 😅 despite not being a pro runner, she got most attention and even had THE NEW YORK TIMES WATCH A MEET AND ALL LOCAL NY NEWS 😂

3 years ago 02/12/2023 10:13pm EST

re: money talker

money talker wrote:
No other shoe company is giving her an NIL deal becuase she is sponsored by Adidas. And she would get way more by being a pro. They can pay for performance.

she'll get there tho, theres one thing we should all learned by now .. thats

TRUST KATELYN TUOHY

3 years ago 02/12/2023 10:42pm EST

re: money talker

money talker wrote:
No other shoe company is giving her an NIL deal becuase she is sponsored by Adidas. And she would get way more by being a pro. They can pay for performance.

Of course adidas has exclusive rights in shoe category. You can pay for performance in an nil, just must be clever. Either simply increase the amount when performance is good. Or add some extra 'requirement' and pay extra for that. The amount of the nil has no limit, it's just what sponsor wants to pay.

We learned last week factually that going rate for a 4star quarterback in the sec is $3-4 million per year as contracts from Florida and Miami were leaked. These aren't even from a company, rather the 'booster collective' variety.

3 years ago 02/12/2023 10:52pm EST

re: Helen Enny

Helen Enny wrote:
She needs to go pro now.

Sorry Helen Enny, but your idea doesn't make Enny sense.

3 years ago 02/13/2023 12:09am EST

re: Ezrun

Ezrun wrote:
Any companies who want to sponsor her would want her to stay in college!!!
She's getting way more exposure as a college athlete than she would if she turned pro...
I'm sure Adidas wants her to stay in school... And if another company wanted to sponsor her as well I'm sure they would too
She wouldn't have gotten newly as much attention yesterday if she was a pro athlete but breaking the college record gets a lot of attention
As well when she runs national championships and during the cross-country season is much more attention than she would as a distance runner in the fall

That's my thought. I am not even sure making an Olympic would add up to 3 NCAA and all the prerace hype. Right now she is setting records. As a pro she is finishing 3rd...

Course I sort of doubt many pro/nil are actually worth it..

3 years ago 02/13/2023 12:32am EST

re: fada tyme

fada tyme wrote:
astro wrote:
Correct. She is not training like pros or training/living at altitude yet. That just shows the degree talent we are talking about.
The NCAA basketball analogy is very helpful. In that case, a comparably talented NCAA basketball or football player would be set to make tens of millions in guaranteed money. That is truly life altering. However even the GOAT NCAA female distance runner is not going to make anywhere near that. Unless someone is truly offering her life altering amounts of money as opposed to just a nice deal that may pay 200K before taxes, there is zero reason to go pro right now.
Forget the money angle. The question with Tuohy is, for her overall career, is she better off training as a pro with those close to being her peers or with her college team where with each race she seems to have few if any peers.

Yeah, so the money is one issue and her development of a runner is another. At 8:35 who can push her in practice or races? Does staying another year stifle her growth at all in a really critical phase as she transitions into her prime? To me, that's a big advantage of her going pro this year.

3 years ago 02/13/2023 8:19am EST

re: vespy

She will hold off as long as possible because testing will increase as a pro.

3 years ago 02/13/2023 8:21am EST

re: Toot the horn

3 years ago 02/13/2023 8:29am EST

re: Marketing bux

Marketing bux wrote:
money talker wrote:
No. She is likely to sign with a different sponsor soon. They wouldn't given her a long term NIL or insurance against injury. They are paying for her name for a year.
Good info, so she's a free agent 1/1/24? Do you think Adidas will fight to keep her?

her contract will be an auction 😂 who bids the highest, gets to be chosen .. she's too high profile to be put in a caged contract

shoe companies would go "what do you like?" "where do you want to train?" "who do you want to train with?" "we'll make everything happen" just to land her

3 years ago 02/13/2023 8:36am EST

re: Toot the horn

Toot the horn wrote:
She will hold off as long as possible because testing will increase as a pro.

Valbymania!!

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