They are running faster just not as fast. Several WR have gone down including Bekele’s by someone who has no business running anything close to what Bekele ran.
I’ll keep repeating the same thing until someone can explain it - if super shoes offer no viable advantage then why run in them? But I’ll bet my next paycheck that 99% of athletes that toes the line at any major meet from HS to pro will have on some form of super shoe.
If super shoes were outlawed tomorrow you would see grown men literally crying over it.
I'm not saying the shoes don't help, it's just not near the degree that some of you think. A lot of you actually believe it's 4-5 seconds per mile...that's just insanity. I posted this in another thread, but it bears repeating...
Ritz ran 12:56 and medaled at World Half. Teg ran 12:58. Solinsky ran 12:55/26:59. Centro medaled at 1500 in 2011, Rupp ran 12:58/26:44 and medaled at 10,000 in 2012. Jager ran 8:00 despite falling on the last hurdle. It all culminated in 2016 when the Americans dominated the Olympic distance events (medals at 800, 1500, 3000st, 5000, marathon). What else happened around 2016...there were like 5 high school sub-4 milers.
My point is, the times and competitiveness of the Americans has been building for a long time. None of that has anything to do with shoes or a BU track.
For decades, the African runners have been running the kinds of times the Americans are now. Not coincidentally, they were also the only people medaling at global championships. You guys are acting like as soon as super shoes came out the Americans became competitive.
Rit and Teg would have FAILED a 2022 drug test if they were implemented in their day. We've seen Amos and Kiprop banned, Shelby Houlihan banned and countless others.
All the fast times that you clamor over from decades ago...they were all DIRTY. Like Russian doping scandal dirty. Jager was listed as the most likely to be dirty athlete.
Athletes are now running on average much faster, while being much cleaner (though maybe not 100% clean).
We are seeing the dirtiest athletes in the world have their marks surpassed by clean (or at least significantly cleaner*) athletes solely because of the shoes.
I'm not saying the shoes don't help, it's just not near the degree that some of you think. A lot of you actually believe it's 4-5 seconds per mile...that's just insanity. I posted this in another thread, but it bears repeating...
Ritz ran 12:56 and medaled at World Half. Teg ran 12:58. Solinsky ran 12:55/26:59. Centro medaled at 1500 in 2011, Rupp ran 12:58/26:44 and medaled at 10,000 in 2012. Jager ran 8:00 despite falling on the last hurdle. It all culminated in 2016 when the Americans dominated the Olympic distance events (medals at 800, 1500, 3000st, 5000, marathon). What else happened around 2016...there were like 5 high school sub-4 milers.
My point is, the times and competitiveness of the Americans has been building for a long time. None of that has anything to do with shoes or a BU track.
For decades, the African runners have been running the kinds of times the Americans are now. Not coincidentally, they were also the only people medaling at global championships. You guys are acting like as soon as super shoes came out the Americans became competitive.
Rit and Teg would have FAILED a 2022 drug test if they were implemented in their day. We've seen Amos and Kiprop banned, Shelby Houlihan banned and countless others.
All the fast times that you clamor over from decades ago...they were all DIRTY. Like Russian doping scandal dirty. Jager was listed as the most likely to be dirty athlete.
Athletes are now running on average much faster, while being much cleaner (though maybe not 100% clean).
We are seeing the dirtiest athletes in the world have their marks surpassed by clean (or at least significantly cleaner*) athletes solely because of the shoes.
We are seeing the dirtiest athletes in the world have their marks surpassed by clean (or at least significantly cleaner*) athletes solely because of the shoes.