British shot putter goes on Piers Morgan to try to save women's sports. #sexnotgender

The Map the Territory wrote:

RunRagged wrote:

Shewon dot org has compiled a list of the names of some of the many female athletes who in recent years have been displaced from their rightful places on awards podiums in women's sports competition by males who say they identify as trans:

Link:www.redstatefeminists.org/shewon/index...

It's disingenuous to insist that the incursion of males into women's and girls' sports in recent years under the banner of "trans inclusion" isn't having a major psychologically-damaging, dispiriting and discouraging impact on a significant proportion of current female athletes at all levels of play and competition, on young female athletes just starting out and/or trying to rise up the ranks, and on young females still making up their minds about whether to begin doing girls' and women's sports in the first place.

I for one am TOTALLY OUTRAGED and completely triggered that MYA BUTTREEKS, a well-deserving and strong FEMALE with a full blown vagina was edged off the platform during the 2021 Western North Carolina Mixed-Team Marbles Championships bi a TRANS WOMAN MONSTER (Ina Dacok) who also had the NERVE to lead a DRAG QUEEN READING HOUR in the woman's bathroom.

Ms Buttreeks was DENIED the $20 Walker Brother Pancake House gift certificate

i mean where does it end?????

Wise Old Man wrote:

Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:

I love track&field. I train hard everyday to reach my goals in this sport but if this is going to be allowed this will take away biological women’s livelihoods. We don’t stand a chance.

No trans woman in track & field has ever competed in the Olympics or the World Championships. But if we halve the upper limit of testoeterone restriction and double the duration of that restriction, no cis woman would stand a chance against trans women who have been waiting all along for their opportunity to take medals away from cis women, right?

My question to Ms. Baker is where those tran women are. And why have they been hiding? Wouldn't it make more sense for them to compete before the restricitons are tightened?

All joking aside, can somebody explain to me why men have an advantage over women in darts? Darts??

Wise Old Man wrote:

Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:

I love track&field. I train hard everyday to reach my goals in this sport but if this is going to be allowed this will take away biological women’s livelihoods. We don’t stand a chance.

No trans woman in track & field has ever competed in the Olympics or the World Championships. But if we halve the upper limit of testoeterone restriction and double the duration of that restriction, no cis woman would stand a chance against trans women who have been waiting all along for their opportunity to take medals away from cis women, right?

My question to Ms. Baker is where those tran women are. And why have they been hiding? Wouldn't it make more sense for them to compete before the restricitons are tightened?

All joking aside, can somebody explain to me why men have an advantage over women in darts? Darts??

Wise Old Man wrote:

RunRagged wrote:

This celebratory article from Outsports gives the names of 28 male athletes claiming trans identities who either "have won national or international competitions" in women's sports or have racked up other major wins in the female category.

Link:www.outsports.com/trans/2022/3/1/22948...

As you can see from the dates given in the article, the majority of the male athletes who are named have won big in women's and girls competition the past 5-6 years, and all except one have done so in the current century.

BTW, the list of names given by Outsports is far from complete. It leaves out a number of male athletes claiming trans identities who have racked up big wins and been awarded newsworthy titles and honors in female competition. Such as surfer Sasha Jane Lowerson, who at age 43 became the top title-holder in two Australian women's surfing events that Lowerson previously won when competing in the men's category; American June Eastwood, whose accomplishments in women's college running led to Eastwood being named Big Sky Conference Female Athlete of the Week; and Stephanie Barrett, a top-tier performer in Canadian, Pan American and world elite women's archery who was chosen to take the single spot given to Canada in women's archery at the 2021 Tokyo Olympics - quite a feat for someone who first picked a bow only 5 years before at age 37.

Did you lift this list from the Onion? I mean some of them are hilarious. How exactly is there a biological difference in ability in darts or snooker? Disc golf? Even archery?

RunRagged wrote:

The sports you find laughable are taken seriously by the persons who compete in them and follow them. You do know, I hope, that some people find running pretty risible too.

You're right that biological differences between the sexes don't appear to give adolescent and adult males as much of an advantage over females in darts as in sports like running and swimming - but that's definitely not the case in snooker, disc golf and archery.

Men and teenage boys have a huge competitive edge over women and teenage girls in snooker, disc golf and archery due to biological factors like males' far greater upper body strength, lean muscle mass, lung capacity and throat size, taller height on average, wider shoulder width, longer arm length and reach, bigger hand and finger size, far greater grip strength - along with males' considerably lower rates of respiration and heart beat, different center of gravity, and the different nature of male and female muscles, tendons, connective tissues, muscles, levels of muscle memory, etc.

Moreover, males have major advantages in snooker, disc golf and archery - and to a lesser extent in darts - because they lack female breasts that can get in the way, female metabolism, natural female tendency to put on on body fat and female distribution of body fat; and because as males, they don't go through female hormonal cycles due to ovulation and menstruation; they don't have periods; and they never ever have to deal with or even worry about pregnancy, childbirth, miscarriage, abortion, maternity and breastfeeding affecting their ability to train and compete at any time over the course of their sports careers.

Also, for the record: the sports you find hilarious are fairly lucrative relative to some other sports. The top prize in a darts tournament is currently £500,000 (GBP) - which is also the current top prize for professional snooker events. By comparison, the top prize at the world archery championships a relatively paltry $30,000 (USD). Beyond the prize money, people who excel in these sports often earn good money from sponsorship deals, ancillary awards, appearances and speaking gigs too.

Natalie Ryan, the male athlete with a trans identity who won several US women's disc golf tournaments in 2022, took home $44,000 (USD) in prize money from those events. The top 20 male players in professional men's disc golf average more than $60,000 per year in prize money. Maybe that's chump change to you, but most people would consider winning that amount of dough from throwing a frisbee around on golf courses to be a pretty sweet deal.

The prize money in professional women's snooker is still much, much lower than the prize money in men's snooker, in large part because women were only given a place on the world snooker tour for the first time in 2022. The top prize for an event in women's snooker on the world tour is now £15,000, a tiny amount compared to the £500,000 top prize in men's snooker on the tour.

As it happens, the top two players in men's pro snooker consistently earn in the million-pound range from being snooker aces. Even as you snort through your nose that sports like snooker, disc golf, darts and archery are hilarious, a lot of the guys who perform at the topmost levels of these endeavors are laughing all the way to the bank.