I am not sure what you are trying to prove here, a practice time trial indoor at altitude vs the last 1600 of a championship 10k the year that person ran a mile WR…
Can’t people be excited for someone's workout and spark discussion about what shape they may be in or what they may try to run at Milrose, koko has run 8:20 and has a 4:17 pr to her name in a race scenario not at altitude. How does this 4:26 TT at altitude relate to that, will she be ready, I think it gives us enough to try and speculate where she is compared to her 8:26.
1) It's okay to be excited about practice. For Pete's sake, Monson's indoor mile PB is 4:38 and her outdoor 1500 PB is 4:07 (4:27 converted). How jaded do you have to be, practice or not, to denigrate excitement over seeing someone improve like that as such a new pro? US athletes need more excitement, not less, especially when it's merited.
2) The argument that "her time's not that great, because one of the greatest women of all time closed faster in a championship race" is pretty weak sauce. Prefacing the comment with "super impressive" doesn't really change that.
Rojo, you should get your own twitter account @LetsRun included. For some reason, I take everything you say with a grain of salt and find you funny and candid. But from a nameless Letrun account, it comes off different. Poor Jonathan.
she's our best hope at a global medal at the 5k/10k.
Also, it's Monson*
I'd pick Emily Sisson in a 10k.
Sisson is great and could become the greatest U.S. women’s marathoner since Joan Benoit Samuelson. But it seems like Sisson is pivoting away from the track and toward the roads 100%, of course diminishing her chances at a global medal on the track. Besides which, at this point I’d take Monson in a 10k 8 times out of 10.
Sisson’s 10k PR is 2 seconds faster but it came in 2019 vs. 2022…I guess this is essentially irrelevant because I believe they both could run well under Sisson’s 30:49. Monson’s 8:26 and 14:31 are way under Sisson’s 8:49/14:53 PRs, which gives Monson the upper hand in a more tactical race and suggests she has a higher ceiling at 10k. In fact, I’d say Monson has the best chance of being the first non-African-born/doped-Chinese woman under 30:00, ahead of Cranny/Schweizer/Klosterhalfen/McColgan/Grovdal.
Do not underestimate how impressive 8:26/14:31 in DL races is - especially when she wound up the pace in the 3k and came 0.01 seconds from beating Niyonsaba—and beat Hassan, Muir, Kipkemboi, Kipkirui, and Chebet in that race!
Sisson is great and could become the greatest U.S. women’s marathoner since Joan Benoit Samuelson. But it seems like Sisson is pivoting away from the track and toward the roads 100%, of course diminishing her chances at a global medal on the track. Besides which, at this point I’d take Monson in a 10k 8 times out of 10.
Sisson’s 10k PR is 2 seconds faster but it came in 2019 vs. 2022…I guess this is essentially irrelevant because I believe they both could run well under Sisson’s 30:49. Monson’s 8:26 and 14:31 are way under Sisson’s 8:49/14:53 PRs, which gives Monson the upper hand in a more tactical race and suggests she has a higher ceiling at 10k. In fact, I’d say Monson has the best chance of being the first non-African-born/doped-Chinese woman under 30:00, ahead of Cranny/Schweizer/Klosterhalfen/McColgan/Grovdal.
Do not underestimate how impressive 8:26/14:31 in DL races is - especially when she wound up the pace in the 3k and came 0.01 seconds from beating Niyonsaba—and beat Hassan, Muir, Kipkemboi, Kipkirui, and Chebet in that race!
While all that is true, the real question is, can someone run a faster 10k on marathon training? Kamworor is a good example, and might have had a chance to prove that point if he didn't get injured.
I was probably just annoyed wondering if Citius was getting paid by ON to film the workout, but not disclosing it, which seems to be par for the course for them.
If I'm watching an ad for On, I'd like to have it prominently disclosed.
4:26 in a workout at altitude is crazy. I'm really thinking Ritz was right about her becoming the next great US distance runner. If she pulls out 8:20 at Millrose, what are the chances she goes for a WR attempt at any distance in the next year?
4:26 in a workout at altitude is crazy. I'm really thinking Ritz was right about her becoming the next great US distance runner. If she pulls out 8:20 at Millrose, what are the chances she goes for a WR attempt at any distance in the next year?
You mean American Record? If not, what record are you referring to? 14:06 and 29:01 are a long way off.
Rojo I kinda like your post a little bit because I think everybody’s a bit behind on the womens 1500+ side of things and how fast times are getting. Do we realize that for the US we have many 3:58-4:01 and 14:30-35 runners right now and they aren’t medal factors because you have to be in 3:51-3:54 shape (this is a recent thing). 5,000 gotta have 14:15-14:20 fitness. Go on down the line and that was with Hassan not at full fitness, and Kenya a little down (Beatrice Chebet might be the next Vivian Cheruiyot). I think Monson is awesome, but hoping she gets to that next level because the standard keeps rising.
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