Thanks for the advice. I moved my next appointment to Friday at 4:30 PM. Hopefully, I’m last for the day. I’m going to walk out of the building with her and then hit her up for coffee or drinks. I’ll keep you all updated.
OP, do your PT and yourself a favor by sparing the poor woman from your inappropriate sexual advances. She's not into you, and she's going to rebuff you.
Guys obsessing over and hitting on women who are just trying to do their jobs in a professional manner is creepy, predatory and pathetic. The fact that you are not just doing it, but you're on a message board talking about how you're planning to entrap your PT and put her on the spot as she leaves work for the day makes you seem all the more so.
Inappropriate patient sexual behavior remains a common experience for physical therapists during their careers, according to a recent U.S. study.
More than 80 percent of nearly 900 physical therapists surveyed said they have encountered sexual remarks, touches, indecent exposure and sexual assault. Almost half said they’ve experienced one of these situations in the past year - numbers that haven’t changed since the last major surveys in the 1990s.
Researchers found that 84 percent of survey participants had experienced inappropriate patient sexual behavior during their career, and 47 percent experienced it during the last year.
Women [working as PTs] reported significantly higher rates of harassment, especially staring, suggestive remarks, inappropriate touches, date requests, sexual gestures, requests for sexual activity and masturbation.
Harassment was most common between a female therapist and male patient. Treating mostly male patients increased the odds of harassment by almost 400 percent, and treating an equal mix of patients doubled the odds, as compared to those who mainly treated female patients.
Wow. Asking out a girl for drinks after she finishes work is an innappropriate sexual advance or "entrapment"? They are not even coworkers. He is saying NOTHING sexual (hey are you free to grab drinks or coffee?). Why are you making this such a big deal?
It's people like you that I know deep down are just unhappy with their romantic lives. Every guy that is asking out a girl is a SEXUALLY OBSESSED FREAK. Women surely DO NOT WANT TO BE ASKED OUT BY ATTRACTIVE MEN (How HORRIBLE!)
Guess what, when you are good looking and polite....women WANT you to ask them out in almost any and all scenarios. At coffeeshops, while walking to the parking lot after a PT session, passing by on a stroll at the park, while buying groceries, you name it. Trust me, I know from experience. Women like sex just as much as men.
If you are a guy, you are too beta/undesirable by women to know this and how easy it is. If you are a girl, you are not pretty enough for desirable men to actually proposition you like this (which if they did YOU WOULD BE LOSING CONTROL IN EXCITEMENT).
Sorry, but its the harsh truth.
As long as OP doesn't walk out with her and say something like "You are hot, wanna come by my place and have sex", then its 100% fair game AND professional (and to be honest, if you are good looking enough, she might even be ok with that insane approach). If she's interested she'll let you know. If not, move on. You are adults, people ask each other out and dates and move on.
This post creeps me out. I feel sorry for the PT who is probably just a friendly woman doing her job.
OP is a creep seriously, wanting to wait for her to finish up her day to ask her out. Dude think at all about how that is normal? The women has a doctorate which means she is educated. Women of her caliber are not interested in some creepy moron that is going to wait for her to get off work. What you explained your plan is sounds like the start of a missing women case. I am just saying nothing that you are planning sounds normal or right it all sounds creepy and very much on the line of stocking!
If OP is good looking they will be delighted LOL. The fact she has a doctorate means nothing.
The harsh truth is men that are "creepy" are generally just average to ugly looking dudes trying hard. If you look like ryan gosling you can be awkward and they think its "cute".
I wouldn't hesitate to ask this girl out politely after work. I'm also good looking and have never experienced this "he's a creep" vibe from a girl EVER in my life.
I went to physical therapy for the first time a couple of weeks ago. The practice requires everyone to wear masks, so I’m not quite sure what she looks like, but I think she’s pretty cute. I noticed when I walked into the exam/treatment room, she left the door wide open. And before testing the strength in my arms, she put on gloves. We seemed to have a good rapport, and she only hurt me a little. Fast forward to this morning: this time she almost closed the door all the way. It remained open a small crack. I’m not sure if that was intentional or not. This time, when she tested my arm strength, no gloves! We discussed a couple of hobbies we have in common. How do I make my move? I’ve been to physical therapy before where massage was part of the treatment. How do I guide us down this avenue?
This post creeps me out. I feel sorry for the PT who is probably just a friendly woman doing her job.
you know...there are women all around the world, who meet up with guys on a whim and have sex with them and LOVE IT. attractive guys hit on them at work, at the bar, after giving physical therapy, and they give consent and have wild flings.
its crazy I know, but this actually happens.
asking a girl out once isn't some super weird creepy thing. If shes not interested she can say "sorry, I am busy" and they will both move on with their lives.
OP, do your PT and yourself a favor by sparing the poor woman from your inappropriate sexual advances. She's not into you, and she's going to rebuff you.
Guys obsessing over and hitting on women who are just trying to do their jobs in a professional manner is creepy, predatory and pathetic. The fact that you are not just doing it, but you're on a message board talking about how you're planning to entrap your PT and put her on the spot as she leaves work for the day makes you seem all the more so.
Inappropriate patient sexual behavior remains a common experience for physical therapists during their careers, according to a recent U.S. study.
More than 80 percent of nearly 900 physical therapists surveyed said they have encountered sexual remarks, touches, indecent exposure and sexual assault. Almost half said they’ve experienced one of these situations in the past year - numbers that haven’t changed since the last major surveys in the 1990s.
Researchers found that 84 percent of survey participants had experienced inappropriate patient sexual behavior during their career, and 47 percent experienced it during the last year.
Women [working as PTs] reported significantly higher rates of harassment, especially staring, suggestive remarks, inappropriate touches, date requests, sexual gestures, requests for sexual activity and masturbation.
Harassment was most common between a female therapist and male patient. Treating mostly male patients increased the odds of harassment by almost 400 percent, and treating an equal mix of patients doubled the odds, as compared to those who mainly treated female patients.
Wow. Asking out a girl for drinks after she finishes work is an innappropriate sexual advance or "entrapment"? They are not even coworkers. He is saying NOTHING sexual (hey are you free to grab drinks or coffee?). Why are you making this such a big deal?
It's people like you that I know deep down are just unhappy with their romantic lives. Every guy that is asking out a girl is a SEXUALLY OBSESSED FREAK. Women surely DO NOT WANT TO BE ASKED OUT BY ATTRACTIVE MEN (How HORRIBLE!)
Guess what, when you are good looking and polite....women WANT you to ask them out in almost any and all scenarios. At coffeeshops, while walking to the parking lot after a PT session, passing by on a stroll at the park, while buying groceries, you name it. Trust me, I know from experience. Women like sex just as much as men.
If you are a guy, you are too beta/undesirable by women to know this and how easy it is. If you are a girl, you are not pretty enough for desirable men to actually proposition you like this (which if they did YOU WOULD BE LOSING CONTROL IN EXCITEMENT).
Sorry, but its the harsh truth.
As long as OP doesn't walk out with her and say something like "You are hot, wanna come by my place and have sex", then its 100% fair game AND professional (and to be honest, if you are good looking enough, she might even be ok with that insane approach). If she's interested she'll let you know. If not, move on. You are adults, people ask each other out and dates and move on.
Minus the casual sex, I agree that there is nothing wrong with men asking out women wherever they happen to meet them. One of the biggest difficulties that men have to overcome is being told that almost any approach is creepy, harassment, and perhaps criminal, yet on the other hand being criticized for not “manning up” to ask out worthy women.
This post creeps me out. I feel sorry for the PT who is probably just a friendly woman doing her job.
OP is a creep seriously, wanting to wait for her to finish up her day to ask her out. Dude think at all about how that is normal? The women has a doctorate which means she is educated. Women of her caliber are not interested in some creepy moron that is going to wait for her to get off work. What you explained your plan is sounds like the start of a missing women case. I am just saying nothing that you are planning sounds normal or right it all sounds creepy and very much on the line of stocking!
Where’s that grammar policeman? Stalking is the word you’re looking for. And it’s not stalking. I’m just going to walk out of the building a little slower than usual.
OP is a creep seriously, wanting to wait for her to finish up her day to ask her out. Dude think at all about how that is normal? The women has a doctorate which means she is educated. Women of her caliber are not interested in some creepy moron that is going to wait for her to get off work. What you explained your plan is sounds like the start of a missing women case. I am just saying nothing that you are planning sounds normal or right it all sounds creepy and very much on the line of stocking!
Where’s that grammar policeman? Stalking is the word you’re looking for. And it’s not stalking. I’m just going to walk out of the building a little slower than usual.
TryThis is right your weird and creepy. Leave her alone man her job is too be nice. After a long day at work I really doubt you bothering her is at the top of her agenda!
I might say they are “less desirable men problems.” I suspect that high status, wealthy, handsome men get away with behavior that would land a man not similarly endowed in hot water. This used to be controlled (though never eliminated of course) by religious and cultural norms that nudged men to behave in a certain way towards women, or risk social ostracism (or a savage beating from a father/brother.)
All that is gone now. We have no sexual ethic except for consent. And more than likely that won’t last much longer either.
OP is a creep seriously, wanting to wait for her to finish up her day to ask her out. Dude think at all about how that is normal? The women has a doctorate which means she is educated. Women of her caliber are not interested in some creepy moron that is going to wait for her to get off work. What you explained your plan is sounds like the start of a missing women case. I am just saying nothing that you are planning sounds normal or right it all sounds creepy and very much on the line of stocking!
Where’s that grammar policeman? Stalking is the word you’re looking for. And it’s not stalking. I’m just going to walk out of the building a little slower than usual.
Don't drag me into it. I'm not making any judgement.
Where’s that grammar policeman? Stalking is the word you’re looking for. And it’s not stalking. I’m just going to walk out of the building a little slower than usual.
TryThis is right your weird and creepy. Leave her alone man her job is too be nice. After a long day at work I really doubt you bothering her is at the top of her agenda!
Tell that one of your goals is to run a local 5k coming up. Ask her if she ever runs races. If she says yes, then say "You should come do this one with me." If she says no, then say "You have to try this race. Do you want to come out and run it?" If you get really strong positive vibes, tell her that you will text her the registration link. What is her number.
I went to physical therapy for the first time a couple of weeks ago. The practice requires everyone to wear masks, so I’m not quite sure what she looks like, but I think she’s pretty cute. I noticed when I walked into the exam/treatment room, she left the door wide open. And before testing the strength in my arms, she put on gloves. We seemed to have a good rapport, and she only hurt me a little. Fast forward to this morning: this time she almost closed the door all the way. It remained open a small crack. I’m not sure if that was intentional or not. This time, when she tested my arm strength, no gloves! We discussed a couple of hobbies we have in common. How do I make my move? I’ve been to physical therapy before where massage was part of the treatment. How do I guide us down this avenue?
You don't. If she's actually interested, she'll let you know.
OP is a creep seriously, wanting to wait for her to finish up her day to ask her out. Dude think at all about how that is normal? The women has a doctorate which means she is educated. Women of her caliber are not interested in some creepy moron that is going to wait for her to get off work. What you explained your plan is sounds like the start of a missing women case. I am just saying nothing that you are planning sounds normal or right it all sounds creepy and very much on the line of stocking!
If OP is good looking they will be delighted LOL. The fact she has a doctorate means nothing.
The harsh truth is men that are "creepy" are generally just average to ugly looking dudes trying hard. If you look like ryan gosling you can be awkward and they think its "cute".
I wouldn't hesitate to ask this girl out politely after work. I'm also good looking and have never experienced this "he's a creep" vibe from a girl EVER in my life.
You sound like my ex boyfriend, who believes that all women are attracted to him because he used to be (about 10 years ago) quite good looking.
Unfortunately he is also a cheating, lying creep and is no longer good looking.
The guy literally believes that every woman who crosses his path does so because she has gone out of her daily routine to do so, after seeing him once from a distance. I don't speak to him at all, because if I was to say hi to him if I saw him on the sidewalk, he would think it meant I was trying to date him again. Even though he is married. Even though I am married. Two years after we broke up, he texted me to tell me he was blocking my number, in case I contacted him again trying to get back together. In reality, I had been no contact since he cheated on me for the last time, and I go out of my way to avoid being in the areas he might likely be.
In the OP, I think this woman would find being asked out in this way really inappropriate and professionally compromising because theres a rule against dating clients. She probably has this kind of thing happen to her frequently. It even has a name - limerance - its when someone imagines that a complete or near stranger is attracted to them.
If OP is good looking they will be delighted LOL. The fact she has a doctorate means nothing.
The harsh truth is men that are "creepy" are generally just average to ugly looking dudes trying hard. If you look like ryan gosling you can be awkward and they think its "cute".
I wouldn't hesitate to ask this girl out politely after work. I'm also good looking and have never experienced this "he's a creep" vibe from a girl EVER in my life.
You sound like my ex boyfriend, who believes that all women are attracted to him because he used to be (about 10 years ago) quite good looking.
Unfortunately he is also a cheating, lying creep and is no longer good looking.
The guy literally believes that every woman who crosses his path does so because she has gone out of her daily routine to do so, after seeing him once from a distance. I don't speak to him at all, because if I was to say hi to him if I saw him on the sidewalk, he would think it meant I was trying to date him again. Even though he is married. Even though I am married. Two years after we broke up, he texted me to tell me he was blocking my number, in case I contacted him again trying to get back together. In reality, I had been no contact since he cheated on me for the last time, and I go out of my way to avoid being in the areas he might likely be.
In the OP, I think this woman would find being asked out in this way really inappropriate and professionally compromising because theres a rule against dating clients. She probably has this kind of thing happen to her frequently. It even has a name - limerance - its when someone imagines that a complete or near stranger is attracted to them.
I have been married for 15 years but even in my single days I would never interfere with a professional at her job. It is cringy, desperate, and disrespectful.
I went to physical therapy for the first time a couple of weeks ago. The practice requires everyone to wear masks, so I’m not quite sure what she looks like, but I think she’s pretty cute. I noticed when I walked into the exam/treatment room, she left the door wide open. And before testing the strength in my arms, she put on gloves. We seemed to have a good rapport, and she only hurt me a little. Fast forward to this morning: this time she almost closed the door all the way. It remained open a small crack. I’m not sure if that was intentional or not. This time, when she tested my arm strength, no gloves! We discussed a couple of hobbies we have in common. How do I make my move? I’ve been to physical therapy before where massage was part of the treatment. How do I guide us down this avenue?
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