Males Win All Medals In New Non-Binary Category at 2022 USA Cyclocross National Championships

This sounds like you are arguing against having a women’s division or masters division at all.

What's next - male non-binary and female non-binary?

So you don’t have a solution, only a complaint.

I even agree with most of what you’re saying in this post.
If you are a woman transitioning to man and taking testosterone, you will fail drug tests. They shouldn’t get a free pass to take PEDs.
Without that, they can’t win against men.

I don’t see a solution for women trans to men competing on any kind of level playing field.
So I don’t have a complaint that they lose to biological men.
I think they just want the chance to participate, and this does give them that.

Yes! If anything, it provides time to iron out the issue, and maintains the integrity of the women's field. Then add governance to determine what an equitable amount of hormones would be within the Open division. Definitely need to get ahead of this. USA Swimming had a chance to take a lead on it with the Lia Thompson deal.

So Bicycling magazine thought that a category of 4 people warranted an article that congratulates each of them individually?

Sure. Maybe you would have a chance to win there.

What's with you, mate? I told what would seem to be the obvious solution at least at first glance. Then I pointed out that this so-called solution would inevitably be challenged in court - for good reason.

But why is it up to me to provide a solution for a problem that I have no part in creating and nothing at all to do with?

Whether they do it to gain unfair advantage in sports, to bulk up their bodies because that's aesthetically appealing to them and they think being beefed up makes them more sexually attractive to others, or to make their bodies outwardly look more like the image of their ideal selves or the opposite-sex "gender identities" they have in their heads, people who willingly choose to take exogenous testosterone and other PEDs - and they alone - are responsible for the consequences of their drug-taking.

The underlying issue here is that sports policy makers and organizations have an obligation to view the big picture, taking into account how their decisions affect everyone who participates or seeks to participate in sports - rather than just focusing on trying to placate people who've adopted niche "gender identity" labels who, due to their well-funded campaigns, vaunted social status and constant whingeing about how oppressed, victimized and excluded they supposedly are, have managed to become the trendy cause célèbre du jour with enormous political power and cultural clout.

Moreover, sports policy makers and orgs are legally and ethically obliged to consider how the new categories and policies they come up with actually work in the real world, and whether in point of fact they might undermine the principles of fairness and safety that are supposed to be the cornerstone of sports.

Does creating a new mixed-sex category for males and females who claim novel gender identities to compete against one another really promote "diversity and inclusion" and help people who have been historically marginalized and excluded from sports? Or does this new category actually create and promote a new form of sexism that favors male athletes and discriminates against female athletes via a sly sleight of hand?

Just as all the winners in the non-binary category at the 2022 NYC Marathon were white males from the US, all the winners in the non-binary division at the 2022 USA Cyclocross Championships are American white males too. Pray tell, when in history have white males from so-called "first world" countries ever been excluded from running, cycling or other sports?

Does the new mixed-sex non-binary category really foster "diversity and inclusion" - or does it actually promote male supremacy and male entitlement by giving males who claim to have novel gender identities extra chances to shine and win, whilst putting females with those same sorts of gender identities at a clear disadvantage - and in the case of some sports, putting female athletes' health and lives at risk too?

Sports policy makers and orgs are also legally and ethically obligated to consider ahead of time whether the new policies and categories they come up with to mollify special interest identity groups might undermine and conflict with other long-established sports policies that many see as central to fair play, such as no-doping regulations.

Seems to me that in coming up with a new non-binary category in which males and females who use novel gender identity labels compete against one another with no regard for the myriad physical differences between the sexes that naturally create an uneven playing field, officials at the NY Road Runners and at USA Cycling failed to take into account the bigger picture. As has often been the case, they've failed to see the forest for the trees.

I just woke up from a 10yr nap, is this an snl skit?

FYI, 2 of the top 5 finishers in the Women's Elite category at the 2022 Cyclocross Championships yesterday (Sunday Dec 11) are males who "identify as" women. Their names are in bold:

1. Clara Honsinger (EF Education-Tibco-SVB) 48:58
2. Raylyn Nuss (Steve Tilford Foundation) +1:37
3. Austin Killips (Nice Bikes) +3:26
4. Hannah Arensman (Ignition p/b Rigd-Leitner) +3:28
5. Jenna Lingwood (Point S Nokian) +3:45

So pray tell, exactly how has the creation of a new mixed-sex non-binary category - in which all the winners so far have been males and in the future the winners inevitably will be be males or almost entirely males too - actually worked out as "a perfectly acceptable solution" to the problem of males using gender identity claims to muscle in on female cycling and other sports?

Seems to me that males are having a field day using gender identity claims for the purpose of eating their cake and having it too.

All this male muscling in on women's sports and spheres to assert their power and steal from women in the name of "gender identity" is just the same old male privilege, male pushiness, male colonization, male domination and male supremacy that blokes have been using to bully, oppress, control, harass, menace and stick it to females for millennia. Only the present-day campaign of male supremacists to invade female sports and other female spheres so that males can lord it over females like a bunch of big swinging dxcks has been rainbow-washed, rebranded as "progressive," and sold to the public by the "diversity and inclusion" industry and the MSM as the next step forward in the long struggle by genuinely marginalized populations to obtain the civil rights long denied them/us by the same sorts of blokes now horning in on women's sports.

And gullible guys like you have fallen for the ploy hook, line and sinker. What's more, from on high you superciliously look down on and slag off women who have the temerity to object to "the alleged problem" of males muscling in on the sports, spaces and services generations of women had to fight tooth and nail for by calling us irrational and whining.

Dunno why my post appears twice. I didn't post it twice. Apologies for the repetition.

It's very easy. Any sporting body should clarify that divisions are based on sex and not gender. Done. That's literally what every male/female division meant when divisions were made, however all the freaking screaming has obscured the fact by making it about gender, when it wasn't. Females don't compete with males because we are so much bigger, stronger faster. That's it.

You can identify with whatever you want, but you'll compete based on your biology.

Your initial premise is off. In order to manipulate sports to further female participation, people (unneccessarily and unproductively) created women-only categories and leagues. These extraneous categories are the ones that "horned" into sports. People are people. Everyone should be respected, invited and encouraged to participate as they are. This initial horning into (and segregating) sports based on sex, which has nothing whatsoever to do with the sport itself, simply paved the way towards what we're seeing today (even more categories and divisions). It's amazing that you don't see this, Runragged!

Excepts (with slight editing changes) from a story in Outsports celebrating the two trans-identified males who came in 3rd and 5th in the 2022 USA Women's Elite Cyclocross Championship yesterday:

For Austin Killups, the final straightaway of the Women’s Elite race at the USA Cycling Cyclocross championships in Hartford, Conn. Sunday was a microcosm of a breakout season. Grit and heart paid off in another strong result.

...holding off Hannah Arenson through a driving snow shower that set the tone of both elite races on the final day of these championships to earn third place, Killips netted Killips' first elite podium — and made Killips the first transgender woman to land a top-three spot in an elite event — at these championships.

“I came wanting a good result,” a pleased and spent Killips told Outsports afterward. “I was just proud to lay it out there and get the result I got, and I’m proud of where I landed.”

This result comes a month after Killips won Killips' first professional women's race at the Northampton International. Killips' start Sunday sent the message that the Nice Bikes team member was a threat for a second win in women's racing.

...Killips made an early bike change to try to close the margin on the front two, but ended up in the middle of a slugfest for third place with Arensman, who was also fighting to hold off Jenna Lingwood and Anna Megale.

Lingwood is also a trans woman who earlier in the week rode to victory in the [USA Cyclocross] masters division women’s 40-44 championship race.

outsports.com

Trans cyclist Austin Killips takes 3rd at U.S. Cyclocross Nationals

Karleigh Webb

Another trans athlete, Jenna Lingwood, finished 5th and also captured the 40-44 Masters championship.

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I saw a funny clip from a comedy show where the comedian said, "I'm in favor of transwomen competing in women's sports... As long as I get to bet on it."

"I have a great feeling about that women with the size 12 shoes and 5 o' clock shadow, I'm putting all my money on her."

well, a man who identifies as a woman did take the 3rd spot on the elite women's field. I guess they/them didn't fit/identify as non-binary

Women's categories and leagues in sports were created "unnecessarily and unproductively" and are "extraneous"?

Sex has nothing to with sports?

By seeking equal opportunity to participate in sports, and rules and regulations that allow us to participate fairly and safely, the female half of the human race are the ones who "horned in"?

Because you say that "people are people," we should pretend that there aren't myriad physical differences between human males and females that makes it unfair - and often unsafe - for females to have to compete in sports against males?

Sure, Jan.

So your issues is with biological males wining the female division. Maybe stick to that.

A third non-binary division is step in the right direction.

The only people that seem to be bothered by it are people whose real issue isn't protecting female sport, but rather they are just triggered by any normalizing of non-binary and trans people into main stream society.

Stop pretending it's all about protecting female sport.

"one group of female athletes".. there is only one group of female athletes - females!