I’ve lost all respect for cyclists.

Bike faster.

Which ebike were you on?

1) Run/bike is duathlon

2) which sport is manlier?

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This is a dumb thread.

Unless you tell us of slow you rode your bike and how fast you tried to run we would not give a s*** to your post. By the way, you are a troll.

(I am, first of all, a runner, but some years a triathlete. My level is the same for both cycling and running. I know what I am talking about. And if you think 7 miles running is easier than 70 miles on the bike it probably means you suck at cycling.)

I won't believe anyone telling me running is hard unless that person can sustain at least watts per kg on a 2h ride.

Ran for 36 years prior to hip replacement. I now spend about 10-12 hours a week on the bike. Do a 20 minute FTP test and tell me cycling is a joke. Ride for 60 minutes at your running threshold heart rate and tell me it’s easy.
My observations:

1. Nearly all gifted runners (high VO2/lactate threshold) can be very strong the bike.
2. Plenty of people with big engines who aren’t efficient on the ground can be very good cyclists.
3. Middle distance runners make the best crit racers

4. 3k/5k types are more suited to classics and grand tours.

You are either cycling alone at 10-15 mph, or in the back drafting of a group averaging 15 mph. Now Try cycling 70 miles solo at 24 mph, or with a group at 28-32 mph, then come back and tell me you ate a whole pizza. I can guarantee you you will be drop the minute the pace goes over 24 mph, as you take the first bite, and quit after trying to catch up to the group now going 30+ mph, because you simply wouldn't be able to ride that fast for more than a couple of miles. I used to think I was good at cycling until I rode the como ride here in OC with some national caliber dudes, pace starts at a brisk easy 18-20 mph for the first 3 miles. Then it goes 25-30 mph, hills above 18-22 mph, and then ends around 36 mph. Of course you can recover of cycling faster since you don't pound your legs, but your lungs and heart can only go as hard as your fitness level. Nah, you didn't try, most real cyclist would make you get off your bike crying after a few miles over 30 mph.

well NFL Fooball is a sport and some dudes gain weight, body building is a sport, you get my drift.

Cycling as a sport is dumb because it's all about the drafting in a peloton. Races should always be solo to prove who's really the best at riding fast in a real world situation. In the real world 100 cyclists don't all gang up to ride 100 miles for any practical purpose.

Cyclists get way more triggered when their athleticism is challenged. Almost every runner knows the elite runners are light years ahead and doesn't care.

I think the mileage equivalents can be all over the place, with my ratios having the two activities being much closer than others. Timewise, which is the way to do it, the activities are just about equal for me. On the bike, I've always seeked out and had access to hills, and now all my (little) bike time is aways on my old cross country mountain bike on hilly trails.

I was a cyclist first before becoming a runner the summer before my junior year of high school. My soph year, I rode a 17-mile hilly loop every day after school, which I had a PB of under 1-hour, but usually took 65 to 80 minutes. I've never been beaten up the main climb in that loop, so I was a decent rider and that was a decent everyday pace for the route and equipment ('83 road bike or '70 road bike). On weekends, I'd ride longer, 30-50 miles on hilly back roads. When I switched to running that summer, I did what felt like the equivalent work. I ran 8 miles my first day of running, and then 9 miles a day the rest of the summer. (In all my years on LR, I still haven't heard of another beginner run as much as I did as a total beginner, 63 mpw my first summer.) So in 1985, I'd say 17 miles bike = 9 miles run and timewise 1:1. It helped that running high mileage came naturally and easy to me.

As a freshman in college, I was a cyclist who typically rode 30-40 miles in the Malibu area canyons in the afternoons with my college team (where I was easily the best climber). When my bike broke and I switched back to running, I ramped up from 11 miles minimum per run to 20 miles every day in singles in two years, with most of that time 16 miles minimum per run. So in the late '80s, early '90s, the ratio for me was also about the same 2:1 bike/run for mileage and 1:1 by time.

It's not dumb, it's a different sport and allows team tactics mostly impossible or useless in running. And they have solo time trials thrown in to cover that aspect. It's not dumb just because it's different from running. What is dumb confusing huge physiological Vo2 etc values of cyclists and assuming they are therefore "better" as runners when runners need a different anatomy to be good etc. And it's also dumb when some TV commenters do not realize such differences and vastly overestimate "tactics" in running.

Run effort is 3x of cycling effort. Everyone knows that

Just make sure you stay out of their way or they will yell at you and then you’re forced to harass them back as you pass them going up the next hill.

cycling is dumb. You put your life at risk just for an exercise. You share the road with cars that can kill you at every ride. Or, if you live in mountenous area, you bomb down hills at 50+ miles with only helmet to protect you. Or, you participate in races where there are massive pileups at every other race.

talk to any cyclist and they will share a story of themselves getting in a serious accident or know someone that has.

Never had much respect for that crowd to begin with, something about the way they dress I suppose.

I don't think cycling can be equated to running by any type of scale factor. There are a few people on my strava feed who will run 30-40 miles but bike 200 miles on swift or on the road. They are no faster in the 5K etc. despite the huge volume of cycling.

Cycling is for dorks.

Cycling is a joke. I've never seen so many middle aged beer guts in my life. Need to get faster? Don't try harder, just buy a more expensive bike. People are spending 10k on a bike and pedaling them on 10 dollar legs.

Your problem was that you had any respect for them to begin with.