Got a final question, would you say that your overall fitness has improved with the "super shoes" (whatever the brand) - as in, if you were to revert to your previous non super shoes racing flats, would you say that you are faster/better than before?
Got a final question, would you say that your overall fitness has improved with the "super shoes" (whatever the brand) - as in, if you were to revert to your previous non super shoes racing flats, would you say that you are faster/better than before?
I started running marathons in my late 40s in large part because of supershoes. At the time I was running in Kayanos and someone gave me a pair of Supershoes to motivate me. It worked. Honestly, I probably would not be nearly as into running as I am if I didn’t have the “race fast in the bouncy supershoes” event to look forward to.
So yes, I am a faster and better runner and weight 15lbs less.
We've all seen all sorts of stats, from Nike's own to many "independent" reviews. But let me ask you personally, letsrunners, how much faster are the Nike *****fly (choose best model for you) for you compared to the best non ******fly ?
I'm talking own personal experience , in seconds per mile.
Thanks!
They give me the promised 3-4% improvement, which for the slower runner that I am is at least 20s/mile over 5K to 10k distances.
This is hilarious. Okay so 3% improvement. A 5 minute mile (300 seconds) is now a 4:51 mile. So anyone who ran a 2:11:00 marathon would now be a 2:07:06 marathon runner. And anyone running 2:05:00 is now running Kipchoge's world record... Even though we had dozens of 2:05 runners before 'super shoes' and yet we still only have 3 runners to ever run sub 2:03. The math ain't mathing here
We've all seen all sorts of stats, from Nike's own to many "independent" reviews. But let me ask you personally, letsrunners, how much faster are the Nike *****fly (choose best model for you) for you compared to the best non ******fly ?
I'm talking own personal experience , in seconds per mile.
Thanks!
It's been a slight improvement for me. In early 2019 I was training for a HM in Adios 3, reasonably confident in setting out at 5:40m/m. I wore 4% in the race (for the first time), by mile 4 I felt a little too comfortable and pushed on, averaging around 5:35m/m for the whole thing. In marathons - Sep 18 I ran 2:36:01 (Berlin) then ran 2:34:05 (San Sebastian) the following year. Not sure how much was due to the shoes (Adios 3 to Vaporfly Next % v1) versus approximately 4000 miles of running between the races. I've found the Vaporfly have kept my calves in good nick for the last 3 or 4 miles of the marathon - in previous racing shoes my calves have felt unresponsive late on in a marathon. Side note: last year due to the pile-up of races following the pandemic I ran Berlin and London a week apart - both in 2:38. I would not have dared to run London like that if I'd be wearing my old Adios.
We've all seen all sorts of stats, from Nike's own to many "independent" reviews. But let me ask you personally, letsrunners, how much faster are the Nike *****fly (choose best model for you) for you compared to the best non ******fly ?
I'm talking own personal experience , in seconds per mile.
Thanks!
I honestly haven't seen a ton of improvement in the marathon but I also haven't raced one in good conditions in the super shoe era. I had good results in Boston in 2018 & 2021 on tough weather days. Guessing I would've been a little slower on those days.
You're supposed to get ~60-90s in a marathon but that implies good weather day, good pacing, good hydration, etc. I just saw a Facebook memory for Chicago 2013 where I went out at what my current PR pace is today. Almost held it & am certainly a lot better today than I was then. I think I'm due to shave off some time but the marathon is a tough distance. Need a good combination of factors or to race 2-3 every year in good conditions.
I think 30 seconds off a 10K PB is significant. As is a minute for a half marathon!
True but I should say that I had been improving year to year so maybe not all Of that was attributable to the shoes. At maximum, 4-5 seconds per mile but not the amount of time others are noting.
