Um...you mean the suburban peers who have $100 an hour tutors to help them prep for standardized tests and to tutor them in all their subjects and to help them navigate the admissions process? And you do know that a large number of elite universities were tests optional the last few years, right?
If you are my doctor, I don’t care how you became proficient. I just care that you are very good at what you do. If you want to ease undergraduate admissions, fine. Don’t extend that to medical school and MCAT.
What's so strange about this sort of thing is that those in favor of affirmative action don't seem to have any knowledge whatsoever that it actually ends up hurting the people that it's supposed to help. People from certain groups are let in despite not meeting criteria and as a result end up in the bottom 10% of their class, often times dropping out completely (after wracking up tens of thousands of dollars of debt and wasting 1-2 years of their life). There have been studies looking into this, and they show that the more disproportionate the standards are between groups, the worse off the lower groups are in the long run because they can't keep up with the rest of the students.
Also, with AA, why would anyone ever want a black doctor, lawyer, etc when statistically speaking it's likely they were in the bottom 10% of the their class. Make standards the same or roughly the same across the board and then you don't have this problem.
This is untrue, btw. Affirmative Action has been very effective in what it aims to do.
Um...you mean the suburban peers who have $100 an hour tutors to help them prep for standardized tests and to tutor them in all their subjects and to help them navigate the admissions process? And you do know that a large number of elite universities were tests optional the last few years, right?
If you are my doctor, I don’t care how you became proficient. I just care that you are very good at what you do. If you want to ease undergraduate admissions, fine. Don’t extend that to medical school and MCAT.
Just make sure that those who graduate Med School and practice medicine are competent.
Lol....You are so obvious...You post under many different handles with the words run together....Always on racial topics and making excuses for affirmative action or attacking honest discussions on race/crime.
This is one main problem I have with affirmative action. It was originally created to help remedy disparities, but it’s gone off the rails now. In 1965 I get why it existed, but 2022 isn’t 1965. Also, it doesn’t really help the people it was intended to help.
The two main groups benefiting are (typically upper-middle class to wealthy) Africans and Latinos. I know somebody who’s probably worth $50 million based off the business his family created - so he’s not disadvantaged at all - but since his grandparents came from Mexico he fills a box. It’s sort of similar for Black people - I believe that when AA was created, people said its goals were to remedy the effects of segregation - but about 70% of Black students at top colleges now are either African, Caribbean, and/or biracial. Their families typically weren’t even in the country in the 60s, and they’re also well off, but it helps colleges’ diversity goals.
I’m from Baltimore which is a city - so I’m from an urban area. I ended up scoring a 36 (144 was the sum of all my sub scores - you do the math) on the ACT by cracking open the test prep book the night before to get a feel for the questions. I didn’t need a tutor to do well. I was prepared well by my high school - ironically, I feel like my college classes for the first two years (barring one) were easier.
It takes tremendous courage to speak the truth. I am sure he is being called a racist. I am also sure the enlightened left is calling for him to be terminated. It's scary what happens when you express an opinion that does not follow the leftist SJW narrative.
Luckily you still have your safe space, letsrun.com, the last bastion of free speech, where you are able to call black people stupid as much as you like.
This isn't about who's more stupid. Its about rank order.
The guy who finishes last in the Olympic final is not crap, but he doesn't deserve a medal.
Only the best, most highly qualified should get the spot.
As a white guy who graduated from med school this past May, I had no idea how discriminated against I've been. Thank you for telling me how aggrieved I am!
You took a seat away from a POC. You selfish scumbag.
All our "well qualified" doctors manage to kill ~250,000 patients per year with medical errors, so I'd say that's some serious room for improvement.
Give me the B student from med school who has a clue how to listen and communicate and can support patients and still think outside the box when necessary. DNA helix was cracked by a decent student who managed to think creatively, that capability matters way more than rote.
I remember a medical school professor who near retirement offered me a stack of his unsolved cases, each one mattered deeply to him, each case inspired him to get better, and that said a lot to me about his character. I was grateful that guy kept teaching.
And I don't actually care if my surgeon is rusty on organic chemistry from way back in first year med. Most graduate level biochemistry is forgotten within a fairly short time. Forget the malate aspartate shuttle, I want to know whether that surgeon's skill level comes with some persistence and compassion, and the best outcome will be deemed worth the extra half hour of effort.
I’m really trying to be super anonymous since I’m bashing an actual human being. The worst resident by a giant landslide I ever taught was white: got a legacy admission to an Ivy, barely graduated from a DO school after failing USMLE and COMLEX exams, and then Daddy got them a spot in a residency program in a medium-competitive specialty. The individual squeaked through for a year before getting kicked out- it took a year to get an air tight enough case that Daddy’s attorneys couldn’t fight.
So how’s that affirmative action dumbing medicine down?
Oh yeah- and my colleague who’s the absolute most knowledgeable about [a specific very useful part of my specialty] is an African American woman.
Interesting that this is his concern, rather than the demonstrably worse outcomes for black patients when cared for by white doctors, which has been established for years by actual research.
But of course, I'm going to listen to this guy: "Goldfarb also works as chairman for Do No Harm, an organization that works to 'remove critical race theory' and 'Defund the Police' ideology in health care."
No, "Effect" change is the correct usage. You are creating the effect of change. If you "affect" change, you are somehow altering or modifying the change that comes about, not creating the change (like "affecting" the outcome of a game). This usage doesn't really make any sense. If you don't believe me, just Google "effect change vs affect change."
Lol....You are so obvious...You post under many different handles with the words run together....Always on racial topics and making excuses for affirmative action or attacking honest discussions on race/crime.
and you are so obvious, posting under the same name, jumping on every race thread trying to pretend you aren't a racist.