For those with simple minds it is. It is actually a potentially fascinating subject for the intelligent.
Intelligent people don't constantly have to say "me smart you dumb" nor do they ask if people hurried away from gays in a shower. You're not fooling anyone.
You cannot come up to my level. That is an astronomical obstacle here.
Let us be real here. Everyone should accept others and their sexuality for sure. But does having a male who is attracted to other males, for example, change the locker room scene at all? Please treat this subject with respect.
Fyi pretty much every team's locker room has had at least one gay person. That's just a stastical fact.
Let us be real here. Everyone should accept others and their sexuality for sure. But does having a male who is attracted to other males, for example, change the locker room scene at all? Please treat this subject with respect.
Fyi pretty much every team's locker room has had at least one gay person. That's just a stastical fact.
I am not sure how accurate that is but it is not really answering the question now is it?
Intelligent people don't constantly have to say "me smart you dumb" nor do they ask if people hurried away from gays in a shower. You're not fooling anyone.
You cannot come up to my level. That is an astronomical obstacle here.
You sound as lost and confused as AdultInTheRoom. You guys should meet up.
But does having a male who is attracted to other males, for example, change the locker room scene at all? Please treat this subject with respect.
I played college soccer at a small D3 school. Nobody was "out" on the team for my first two seasons. During my junior year, one of the sophomores came out as gay. After that, the locker room experience got less gay, because the guys on the team wanted to be respectful to our teammate.
During my first two seasons (when everyone thought everyone was straight), the locker room had a lot of nudity with guys walking around completely naked (doing helicopters, dancing around naked, whipping each other with towels, etc.). Comments about penises and pubic hair occurred with some regularity. One upperclassman was known to comment "nice dick, bro" to freshmen in the showers as a form of mild hazing, to see how the freshman would react. It was kind of gay, in retrospect.
During my final two seasons (when we knew a teammate was gay), the locker room had less 'out there' nudity and was more respectful. Guys stopped running around completely naked and instead changed in front of their lockers, took towels to the showers, and didn't get up to any shenanigans in the showers. The locker room vibe felt like more of a "business as usual" vibe rather than a "rampant debauchery" vibe. It was cleaner too. It was a much better overall experience than my first two years.
Sounds like it was more fun during the “rampant debauchery” era
My understanding is roughly 1/22 people are gay. So it might be a stretch to say that pretty much every locker room has gays in it but of course it is OK if they do.
Imagine Alabama or USC having a gay head coach, hell how about the Packers or the Niners? Here it is 2022 and we have yet to see a "known" gay head coach in pro football or college football, there is a reason for that.
Football simply isn't the best place to be attracted to other men, simple common sense.
That’s like me asking a gay dude, “Bro, why you gay?”
It's not like that, though I'd encourage you to ask a gay friend sometime. I will continue to await your answer on "why" a heterosexual person wouldn't act the same with a gay teammate, but I am not optimistic you will have an answer.
My favorite part of this thread is asking people for their experiences, and then totally dismissing them based on your personal and wrong biases 🥴 letsrun at its finest.
Anywho, I graduated from college almost 10 years ago. Many gay guys on the team. We all showered together. No one ever thought twice about it.
Things we were concerned about and routinely discussed…
- Who had the biggest bush?
- Who had the saggiest balls?
- Who is peeing near my feet?
We then shared these lists at XC camp over summer with the girls team.
Football simply isn't the best place to be attracted to other men, simple common sense.
Or maybe it might be one of the best places to be gay with all the patting each other on the rear end and then the center snap is kind of intimate and gay, and you love the sport Deno, and you love to look at half naked wrestlers and stuff.
That’s like me asking a gay dude, “Bro, why you gay?”
It's not like that, though I'd encourage you to ask a gay friend sometime. I will continue to await your answer on "why" a heterosexual person wouldn't act the same with a gay teammate, but I am not optimistic you will have an answer.
It's not like that, though I'd encourage you to ask a gay friend sometime. I will continue to await your answer on "why" a heterosexual person wouldn't act the same with a gay teammate, but I am not optimistic you will have an answer.
Here is a timeline of objections to gay people from Deno and those who think like him:
1990s: "Gay men should never be school teachers. Nobody wants to send their kids to be taught by a pervert." Gay teachers come out and continue to excel as educators.
2000s: "Gay men should not openly serve in our military. It could hurt morale!" Don't Act Don't Tell is suspended in 2011 and the military is fine a decade later.
2010: "Nobody would ever want to work for a gay boss. They would probably sexually harass their employees! That's why an out gay man will never be a CEO of a major company." Tim Cook is named CEO of Apple in 2011, and the company thrives under his leadership.
1990s-2015: "If gay couples are allowed to marry, it will destroy the institution of marriage!" Gay couples in the US are allowed to marry starting in 2015, and the institution of marriage remains intact today.
2010s: "A gay man will never be elected to a high-level public office position. Nobody wants their government in the hands of a homo." Jared Polis is elected governor of Colorado in 2018.
2019: "Fine, a gay man got elected as governor, but nobody will ever consider a gay man to be president!" In 2020, Pete Buttigieg wins the Iowa caucuses and finishes a close second in New Hampshire primary.
2021: "You will never see an openly gay player in the NFL. The league is too macho. It will never be tolerated!" Carl Nassib comes out, is supported by coaches and teammates, and he helps the Raiders make the playoffs.
It's funny to see the goal posts continually moved after their objections/predictions are disproved. Now it's a gay football coach who supposedly couldn't be successful! What's next, gay astronaut?
Football simply isn't the best place to be attracted to other men, simple common sense.
Or maybe it might be one of the best places to be gay with all the patting each other on the rear end and then the center snap is kind of intimate and gay, and you love the sport Deno, and you love to look at half naked wrestlers and stuff.
That was totally lame.
Football is all about kicking butt or taking a butt kicking, the key word.....violence. Anytime you hear any player say......not looking to actually hurt anyone......he is lying yes he is. Wanna be an instant football hero, knock somebody out of the game, here come those butt slaps you talked about, only a fool doesn't get it.
Dude, pro rasslin' , body building, swimming, boxing/MMA, have nothing to do with being gay, ok guy, sheesh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What if a team ha 8 gay athletes out there, think about how that would go over.
Let us be real here. Everyone should accept others and their sexuality for sure. But does having a male who is attracted to other males, for example, change the locker room scene at all? Please treat this subject with respect.
Surely you know it doesn’t. Having the same genitals as everyone else is not considered a threat even if they are attracted to their kind. Only the physically weaker sex is considered threatened by the presence of someone of the opposite sex in locker rooms, understandably because they are more vulnerable compared to all other combinations of co-occupancy.
You know this to be true in every case? No one is ever threatened by someone of the same sex, despite seeing them naked on a daily basis? How could you know this? As I understand it, homosexual rape is a real problem in prisons. I would think the inmates feel threatened by people of the same sex in a locker room situation, or whatever the prison equivalent is.
Like most of us, I have worked with countless gays in my life, and got on with them just fine. But I would be uncomfortable disrobing in front of them. Same as I would not want to take my clothes off in front of a strange woman.
Or maybe it might be one of the best places to be gay with all the patting each other on the rear end and then the center snap is kind of intimate and gay, and you love the sport Deno, and you love to look at half naked wrestlers and stuff.
That was totally lame.
Football is all about kicking butt or taking a butt kicking, the key word.....violence. Anytime you hear any player say......not looking to actually hurt anyone......he is lying yes he is. Wanna be an instant football hero, knock somebody out of the game, here come those butt slaps you talked about, only a fool doesn't get it.
Dude, pro rasslin' , body building, swimming, boxing/MMA, have nothing to do with being gay, ok guy, sheesh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What if a team ha 8 gay athletes out there, think about how that would go over.
Have you been in a coma for a couple decades? The NFL has changed the rules to encourage a slightly less violent game. Gay people are going mainstream. You need to wake up and smell the PRIDE. Society has passed you by.