College is a sham. No time to study under scholarship. They clock you in and out. It's a Big Lie. Preps and college students should play for pro teams that pay real money. When it's over then go back to school.
Colleges were funding track and xc before football and basketball were minor league sports, or had big tv packages, colleges where the football team loses money and have no tv deal still fund track. I think we will be ok, maybe even better off.
I share a lot of the “we are about to lose tons of scholarships” anxiety prevalent in this thread, but why isn’t this simply the right answer?
Colleges were funding track and xc before football and basketball were minor league sports, or had big tv packages, colleges where the football team loses money and have no tv deal still fund track. I think we will be ok, maybe even better off.
I share a lot of the “we are about to lose tons of scholarships” anxiety prevalent in this thread, but why isn’t this simply the right answer?
Schools currently need to have ~7 sports in order to be a NCAA member. Get rid of that requirement and more sports get cut when budget crunches happen. Not so much at the top 50 schools as the bottom of DI.
See what has happened to wrestling over the past 30 years. Or swimming. I would like to think track would be one of the last to go after things like squash, fencing, water polo, rowing and the like you never know. And the tough part is that when programs get cut during rough times, they rarely get reinstated.
The question that needs to be asked is why will universities continue to have sports?
Universities are now big business and without big revenue generated by football and basketball won't university presidents at those schools soon ask... "why do we have sports, again? These minor sports do nothing for our bottom line and we have to charge the students extra to have them. Why don't we just let them all be club teams and be done with it?"
Football is just a mess for so many reasons. However, it does pay the bills for some schools, a very limited number where football allows for athletic departments that are profitable (maybe 30 schools?). Football also messes up title IX because the rosters are so large and ultimately mens sports get cut.
If you can move football out of the NCAA then maybe you have no title IX issues which might be good for track/xc. Let football programs contract with schools for licensing, facilities.... and pay into the athletic department like an outside rental and franchise. Use that money to pay for other sports.
In many ways football is killing other sports and it doesn't need the NCAA.
I think basketball is different. I think they need march madness to make money. Upsets rarely happen in football and there are only 8 teams that really can win it all. In basketball more teams can win it all and there are more upsets in playoff games. So, I hope basketball doesn't break off. Then the question is can basketball support an athletic dept?
It can (see Villanova, Gtown, Big east and probably others). Would breaking off basketball from NCAA make sense like it might for football? I don't think so.
Remove the football costs from athletic departments and maybe there is some sanity in collegiate athletics and if the NCAA cleans itself up then maybe the NCAA works for sports other than football.
"If you can move football out of the NCAA then maybe you have no title IX issues" ??Title 9 covers the entire university. You have to count the 85 Football full grants and opportunities. If Power 5 football moves out of the NCAA; you still won't see additional men's track money or larger rosters !
Remove the football costs from athletic departments and maybe there is some sanity in collegiate athletics and if the NCAA cleans itself up then maybe the NCAA works for sports other than football.
By sanity you mean the schools deciding how much money they want to lose in athletics? Football revenue funds all the power 5 conference schools athletic budgets. Without that cash spigot all those programs are going to get drastic cuts and their budgets will look like that of the rest of DI. For better or worse...
"If you can move football out of the NCAA then maybe you have no title IX issues" ??Title 9 covers the entire university. You have to count the 85 Football full grants and opportunities. If Power 5 football moves out of the NCAA; you still won't see additional men's track money or larger rosters !
Not when football scholarships become salaries with tuition and health insurance as benefits. Football players, and maybe basketball players, will go from student-athletes to staff employees.
Again, while the Doomsday scenario could happen, I don't think it will. Maybe the the US will move to a European, Club Model but that won't necessarily be worse, just different.
How many kids are completely cut out of athletics post HS because they can't or don't want to go to college?
I just don't think we are going to see all school immediately drop athletics. Its too much a part of campus life.
Remove the football costs from athletic departments and maybe there is some sanity in collegiate athletics and if the NCAA cleans itself up then maybe the NCAA works for sports other than football.
By sanity you mean the schools deciding how much money they want to lose in athletics? Football revenue funds all the power 5 conference schools athletic budgets. Without that cash spigot all those programs are going to get drastic cuts and their budgets will look like that of the rest of DI. For better or worse...
Football earns the most money because they have put the most marketing into it. The money goes to the athletic department, not to the football department. It should be distributed more evenly. I could see other teams suing the universities for unfair marketing and unfair funding.
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