So glad I’m not famous so strange weirdos can’t speculate and about my medical history, including trying to dig up ANY information that supports their confirmation bias.
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Kenny59 wrote:
I don't know anyone who's died from covid, i do know a young lady ( about 20 ) who developed blood clots from the vaccine. I took the original 2 shots but don't want a booster, had covid in January. Was like a bad flu, 3 days later i was recovered.
Well, argument over. No science is better than "I don't know anyone who's died from covid..." Have you submitted this to the Journal of the American Medical Association yet? I see a Nobel Prize in your future, possibly a Presidential Medal of Freedom, and maybe even, if you are lucky, a LetsRun QAnon/Incel/Troll award (but let's be honest, the competition for the LetsRun award has far more competitors than the Nobel or Medal of Freedom).
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Chef Gordon Ramzi wrote:
You don't have to be a "right-winger" or "conspiracy theorist" or "anti-vaxxer" to recognize that 1) the covid vaccine does not fulfill the standard barebones function of a traditional vaccine (it does not prevent spread or infection), 2) the shot has been linked thrombosis and myorcarditis, and 3) the politicalization of the vaccine has stifled honest discussion of the drug's effects.
But you have to be less than honest with yourself to not understand vaccines (does the flu vaccine prevent all cases of flu?). You have to be less than honest with yourself to think there are no side effects to all vaccines that happen to a small % of the population. You have to be less than honest with yourself to think you are not the ones who politicized this in the first place with pseudoscience, with your inability to understand basic statistics (or willfully ignoring basic statistics), and with your elevation of individual cases that you believe prove a point, with your unwillingness to see that the scientific community actually does study the effects and the media does actually cover the effects (good and bad) - just not in a manner that confirms your bias.
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Or long haul flights. Note distance between northern England and North West America.
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I’ve had DVTs. First was in my 20s. Now on blood thinners for life after recurrence. My elevated risk is due to factor 5 gene defect. It’s very common in people of Northern European descent (like 10% of pop has at least one mutation putting them at elevated risk). Some people think athletes are even more susceptible because of their low resting heart rate. Long flight and likely being dehydrated were contributing factors for me.
Good news is blood thinners now are pretty easy to manage and my health is better than ever.
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claimed claims wrote:
Sifansshass wrote:
It is not "now claimed", it's been known for two years. "Even those with mild COVID-19 had a three times higher risk of deep vein thrombosis", google it my friend.
Like all these stats that attempt to minimize the concern for vaccines, this is likely another massive BS stat. All six that we know in our friends/family circle who developed DVT, developed DVT either getting the shot but not contracting covid, or by getting the shot, developing DVT and then contracting covid at some latter point. Do you really think a cold related virus itself is going to cause a pandemic of DVT? Ridiculous.
Right, here on this website, no one ever gets COVID and no one they know gets COVID, but everyone develops deep vein thrombosis from the vaccine, which is useless anyway--and extremely harmful. Total nonsense. DVT has a risk of 1 in a 1000 per year or 2-5% per lifetime. 11% of moderate-severe COVID patients in this study had a form of DVT.
However, among vaccinated patients, there was no greater risk of DVT than in the general population normally. "The overall rate of acute DVT (upper and lower) was 1.86 per 1000 patients, consistent with the expected background epidemiologic rate."
"Conclusions: In this large cohort of COVID-19 vaccinated patients, no increased risk for acute DVT post-vaccination was identified for any of the approved vaccinations in the United States."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006497121022886
So, COVID often does cause DVT, while COVID vaccination does not. This is called looking at the science.
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zxczcxv wrote:
claimed claims wrote:
Like all these stats that attempt to minimize the concern for vaccines, this is likely another massive BS stat. All six that we know in our friends/family circle who developed DVT, developed DVT either getting the shot but not contracting covid, or by getting the shot, developing DVT and then contracting covid at some latter point. Do you really think a cold related virus itself is going to cause a pandemic of DVT? Ridiculous.
Right, here on this website, no one ever gets COVID and no one they know gets COVID, but everyone develops deep vein thrombosis from the vaccine, which is useless anyway--and extremely harmful. Total nonsense. DVT has a risk of 1 in a 1000 per year or 2-5% per lifetime. 11% of moderate-severe COVID patients in this study had a form of DVT.
However, among vaccinated patients, there was no greater risk of DVT than in the general population normally. "The overall rate of acute DVT (upper and lower) was 1.86 per 1000 patients, consistent with the expected background epidemiologic rate."
"Conclusions: In this large cohort of COVID-19 vaccinated patients, no increased risk for acute DVT post-vaccination was identified for any of the approved vaccinations in the United States."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006497121022886
So, COVID often does cause DVT, while COVID vaccination does not. This is called looking at the science.
But science is hard. It's much more convenient to make vague gestures that it is from the vaccine and implying that saying as much is not allowed because of shadow governments, not that's is silly and unlikely because of science.
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zxczcxv wrote:
claimed claims wrote:
Like all these stats that attempt to minimize the concern for vaccines, this is likely another massive BS stat. All six that we know in our friends/family circle who developed DVT, developed DVT either getting the shot but not contracting covid, or by getting the shot, developing DVT and then contracting covid at some latter point. Do you really think a cold related virus itself is going to cause a pandemic of DVT? Ridiculous.
Right, here on this website, no one ever gets COVID and no one they know gets COVID, but everyone develops deep vein thrombosis from the vaccine, which is useless anyway--and extremely harmful. Total nonsense. DVT has a risk of 1 in a 1000 per year or 2-5% per lifetime. 11% of moderate-severe COVID patients in this study had a form of DVT.
However, among vaccinated patients, there was no greater risk of DVT than in the general population normally. "The overall rate of acute DVT (upper and lower) was 1.86 per 1000 patients, consistent with the expected background epidemiologic rate."
"Conclusions: In this large cohort of COVID-19 vaccinated patients, no increased risk for acute DVT post-vaccination was identified for any of the approved vaccinations in the United States."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006497121022886
So, COVID often does cause DVT, while COVID vaccination does not. This is called looking at the science.
Thank you for your psuedoscientific take!
"11% of moderate-severe COVID patients in this study had a form of DVT." Correlation is NOT causation, bat-lips. Go to the back of the class!
"...there was no greater risk of DVT than in the general population normally."
How much of the "normal" population is already vaccinated? 80%? 90%? Comparing virtually identical populations....What a *SHOCKING* result!
You are further evidence of the systemic failure of science education in modern schools (not surprising, since socialistic indoctrination camps don't care about facts and logic).
"Shut up and roll up your sleeve!"
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Covid is much more likely to cause clots but what do Doctors know?
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Flat Stanley wrote:
All these dumb theories! Maybe he got DVT from long haul air travel like many other people or due to many possible reasons. But oh no it must definitely be form the vaccine or from EPO or steroids!
The drugs accusations are particularly unfair. The kid ran 1:53 at 14, 1:49 at 15, 1:47 at 16, 1:45 at 17, 1:44 at 18 and 19 and 1:43 this year at 20. He is a phenomenal talent. Has he been doping since he was 14? He would have beaten Cade Flatt easily when he was two years younger than him. His progression looks very believable and he has no association with anyone involved in doping as far as I know.
I have no opinion on Max Burgin.
That said I find it bizarre that in eight years of HS and collegiate running with scores of teammates, some of whom were 1:45.x 800 men, 4:01.x milers, and 24 flat 8kers not a single one got deep vein thrombosis, endocarditis, malaria, thyroid issues, adult onset asthma, or testosterone deficiencies.
For some reason these maladies seem to effect world class athletes at a disproportionate rate, particularly right before championship meets..
Just saying-
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XY wrote:
zxczcxv wrote:
Right, here on this website, no one ever gets COVID and no one they know gets COVID, but everyone develops deep vein thrombosis from the vaccine, which is useless anyway--and extremely harmful. Total nonsense. DVT has a risk of 1 in a 1000 per year or 2-5% per lifetime. 11% of moderate-severe COVID patients in this study had a form of DVT.
However, among vaccinated patients, there was no greater risk of DVT than in the general population normally. "The overall rate of acute DVT (upper and lower) was 1.86 per 1000 patients, consistent with the expected background epidemiologic rate."
"Conclusions: In this large cohort of COVID-19 vaccinated patients, no increased risk for acute DVT post-vaccination was identified for any of the approved vaccinations in the United States."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006497121022886
So, COVID often does cause DVT, while COVID vaccination does not. This is called looking at the science.
Thank you for your psuedoscientific take!
"11% of moderate-severe COVID patients in this study had a form of DVT." Correlation is NOT causation, bat-lips. Go to the back of the class!
"...there was no greater risk of DVT than in the general population normally."
How much of the "normal" population is already vaccinated? 80%? 90%? Comparing virtually identical populations....What a *SHOCKING* result!
You are further evidence of the systemic failure of science education in modern schools (not surprising, since socialistic indoctrination camps don't care about facts and logic).
"Shut up and roll up your sleeve!"
The study looked at incidents of DVT in people before and after their vaccination. The comparison is thus controlled for high rates of vaccine uptake. They did not do the nonsensical comparison you claim they did. You don't understand the study and have shown you are basically illiterate when it comes to scientific literature.
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zxczcxv wrote:
claimed claims wrote:
Like all these stats that attempt to minimize the concern for vaccines, this is likely another massive BS stat. All six that we know in our friends/family circle who developed DVT, developed DVT either getting the shot but not contracting covid, or by getting the shot, developing DVT and then contracting covid at some latter point. Do you really think a cold related virus itself is going to cause a pandemic of DVT? Ridiculous.
Right, here on this website, no one ever gets COVID and no one they know gets COVID, but everyone develops deep vein thrombosis from the vaccine, which is useless anyway--and extremely harmful. Total nonsense. DVT has a risk of 1 in a 1000 per year or 2-5% per lifetime. 11% of moderate-severe COVID patients in this study had a form of DVT.
However, among vaccinated patients, there was no greater risk of DVT than in the general population normally. "The overall rate of acute DVT (upper and lower) was 1.86 per 1000 patients, consistent with the expected background epidemiologic rate."
"Conclusions: In this large cohort of COVID-19 vaccinated patients, no increased risk for acute DVT post-vaccination was identified for any of the approved vaccinations in the United States."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006497121022886
So, COVID often does cause DVT, while COVID vaccination does not. This is called looking at the science.
Antivaxxers go home devastated. They'll continue to try and tie everything to the vaccine because they are so mad that vaccines work. You love to see it.
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Eejits wrote:
Kenny59 wrote:
I don't know anyone who's died from covid, i do know a young lady ( about 20 ) who developed blood clots from the vaccine. I took the original 2 shots but don't want a booster, had covid in January. Was like a bad flu, 3 days later i was recovered.
Well, argument over. No science is better than "I don't know anyone who's died from covid..." Have you submitted this to the Journal of the American Medical Association yet? I see a Nobel Prize in your future, possibly a Presidential Medal of Freedom, and maybe even, if you are lucky, a LetsRun QAnon/Incel/Troll award (but let's be honest, the competition for the LetsRun award has far more competitors than the Nobel or Medal of Freedom).
So you suggest we all ignore our own personal experience with Covid and the jab over these 2.5 years (1.5 for the jab) and listen to Big Pharma and the Govt.
What could go wrong with that approach?
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Gwalkerruns wrote:
Covid is much more likely to cause clots but what do Doctors know?
Since when?
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Harambe wrote:
zxczcxv wrote:
Right, here on this website, no one ever gets COVID and no one they know gets COVID, but everyone develops deep vein thrombosis from the vaccine, which is useless anyway--and extremely harmful. Total nonsense. DVT has a risk of 1 in a 1000 per year or 2-5% per lifetime. 11% of moderate-severe COVID patients in this study had a form of DVT.
However, among vaccinated patients, there was no greater risk of DVT than in the general population normally. "The overall rate of acute DVT (upper and lower) was 1.86 per 1000 patients, consistent with the expected background epidemiologic rate."
"Conclusions: In this large cohort of COVID-19 vaccinated patients, no increased risk for acute DVT post-vaccination was identified for any of the approved vaccinations in the United States."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006497121022886
So, COVID often does cause DVT, while COVID vaccination does not. This is called looking at the science.
Antivaxxers go home devastated. They'll continue to try and tie everything to the vaccine because they are so mad that vaccines work. You love to see it.
I hope you're not confusing "vaccines" with the Covid-MRNA, which clearly did not work.
Almost every single person I know who got vaccinated for Covid has got Covid (I would say at least 19 of every 20 who I know, so 95%) and in most cases the vaccinated got more sick than the unvaccinated people I know.
The government will never tell you that when you get boosted, it lowers your T cell count for two weeks and makes you much more vulnerable for Covid, or any virus, then you were previously.
I understand this is not necessarily directly tied to the origin of this thread, but I think it is an important clarification for people who still think the Covid vaccine or Covid boosters are helping them avoid getting Covid.
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Harambe wrote:
zxczcxv wrote:
Right, here on this website, no one ever gets COVID and no one they know gets COVID, but everyone develops deep vein thrombosis from the vaccine, which is useless anyway--and extremely harmful. Total nonsense. DVT has a risk of 1 in a 1000 per year or 2-5% per lifetime. 11% of moderate-severe COVID patients in this study had a form of DVT.
However, among vaccinated patients, there was no greater risk of DVT than in the general population normally. "The overall rate of acute DVT (upper and lower) was 1.86 per 1000 patients, consistent with the expected background epidemiologic rate."
"Conclusions: In this large cohort of COVID-19 vaccinated patients, no increased risk for acute DVT post-vaccination was identified for any of the approved vaccinations in the United States."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006497121022886
So, COVID often does cause DVT, while COVID vaccination does not. This is called looking at the science.
Antivaxxers go home devastated. They'll continue to try and tie everything to the vaccine because they are so mad that vaccines work. You love to see it.
Lol. Vaxx boy rears his devastated ugly face again! hahahha. You are right that vaccines work...to create side effects of all kinds.
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zxczcxv wrote:
claimed claims wrote:
Like all these stats that attempt to minimize the concern for vaccines, this is likely another massive BS stat. All six that we know in our friends/family circle who developed DVT, developed DVT either getting the shot but not contracting covid, or by getting the shot, developing DVT and then contracting covid at some latter point. Do you really think a cold related virus itself is going to cause a pandemic of DVT? Ridiculous.
Right, here on this website, no one ever gets COVID and no one they know gets COVID, but everyone develops deep vein thrombosis from the vaccine, which is useless anyway--and extremely harmful. Total nonsense. DVT has a risk of 1 in a 1000 per year or 2-5% per lifetime. 11% of moderate-severe COVID patients in this study had a form of DVT.
However, among vaccinated patients, there was no greater risk of DVT than in the general population normally. "The overall rate of acute DVT (upper and lower) was 1.86 per 1000 patients, consistent with the expected background epidemiologic rate."
"Conclusions: In this large cohort of COVID-19 vaccinated patients, no increased risk for acute DVT post-vaccination was identified for any of the approved vaccinations in the United States."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006497121022886
So, COVID often does cause DVT, while COVID vaccination does not. This is called looking at the science.
Hahahaha. Looking at the science. hahahaha. And here we go. As if we all didn't learn by now the "science" pushed by the woke is the worlds greatest trash and that most of these studies are worthy only as toilet paper. Right, and we should all believe that drugs, which historically have had widespread detrimental effects, many deadly, are all of a sudden free from concern because you posted another worthless study. Have you not learned anything by now? Vaxxers are a sorry useless bunch indeed. Fun to watch them dying by the thousands and keep getting humiliated.
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Harambe wrote:
XY wrote:
Thank you for your psuedoscientific take!
"11% of moderate-severe COVID patients in this study had a form of DVT." Correlation is NOT causation, bat-lips. Go to the back of the class!
"...there was no greater risk of DVT than in the general population normally."
How much of the "normal" population is already vaccinated? 80%? 90%? Comparing virtually identical populations....What a *SHOCKING* result!
You are further evidence of the systemic failure of science education in modern schools (not surprising, since socialistic indoctrination camps don't care about facts and logic).
"Shut up and roll up your sleeve!"
The study looked at incidents of DVT in people before and after their vaccination. The comparison is thus controlled for high rates of vaccine uptake. They did not do the nonsensical comparison you claim they did. You don't understand the study and have shown you are basically illiterate when it comes to scientific literature.
That is not what the quote stated. More obfuscating nonsense from the lab rats and bureaucratic plankton.
It is almost worth the inevitable s@%# storm of garbage science "studies" to see that I have inspired a rotting carcass of a useless primate back onto the boards.
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I am glad you don't know any one who has died from covid, I personally knew 5, one as young as 29, and sadly my youngest brother in his mid 50s.
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