The whole Ethiopian team, Kimeli, Krop, Kiplimo, and Cheptegei can all run that pace comfortably and still close a lot quicker than 60. I can see him beating two of those on a very good day so I think 5h is his ceiling in the 5k. I honestly think Kincaid is a better medal prospect in the 5k since there's always the chance the race goes slow and he has good foot speed
Fisher has good foot speed. I don’t know why people deny this. Dude could’ve made the 1500m team for sure, and if he wanted to be a world level 1500/800m guy I bet he could.
Fisher could’ve made this year’s 1500m team but that’s not saying much. Zero chance he could be “world level” in the 800m, though.
Really impressive win today in the 5k. Hopefully he can medal at Worlds. As good as he is, I still wouldn’t call him a favorite. The Ethiopians not doubling should help his chances.
Much higher chance Fisher beats Teare in the 1500 yesterday than Teare beats Fisher in the 5000 today.
For those that don't pay attention - Teare ran 13:06 mostly solo in the rain with a 4:05 last 1600 and a 55.85 final lap. He only had a pacer for 1800m. This was in March. Fisher closed in 4:03 with pacers for 3800m.
Much higher chance Fisher beats Teare in the 1500 yesterday than Teare beats Fisher in the 5000 today.
For those that don't pay attention - Teare ran 13:06 mostly solo in the rain with a 4:05 last 1600 and a 55.85 final lap. He only had a pacer for 1800m. This was in March. Fisher closed in 4:03 with pacers for 3800m.
Much higher chance Fisher beats Teare in the 1500 yesterday than Teare beats Fisher in the 5000 today.
For those that don't pay attention - Teare ran 13:06 mostly solo in the rain with a 4:05 last 1600 and a 55.85 final lap. He only had a pacer for 1800m. This was in March. Fisher closed in 4:03 with pacers for 3800m.
Thank you, the BTC brigade needs to relax a little. I would still bet on Fisher over Teare in a fast 5k, but I’d expect them to be much closer over 5k than 1500m.
Much higher chance Fisher beats Teare in the 1500 yesterday than Teare beats Fisher in the 5000 today.
For those that don't pay attention - Teare ran 13:06 mostly solo in the rain with a 4:05 last 1600 and a 55.85 final lap. He only had a pacer for 1800m. This was in March. Fisher closed in 4:03 with pacers for 3800m.
Wow I didn't realize Teare had such a big last 1600 and 400 in that race.
I think Teare would have just sit and kicked on Fisher. Don't forget Fisher just got out kicked by Klecker who isn't exactly known for his sprint speed.
Fisher could’ve made this year’s 1500m team but that’s not saying much. Zero chance he could be “world level” in the 800m, though.
Really impressive win today in the 5k. Hopefully he can medal at Worlds. As good as he is, I still wouldn’t call him a favorite. The Ethiopians not doubling should help his chances.
Incorrect. Fisher wouldn’t have beaten Josh Thompson his teammate.
For those that don't pay attention - Teare ran 13:06 mostly solo in the rain with a 4:05 last 1600 and a 55.85 final lap. He only had a pacer for 1800m. This was in March. Fisher closed in 4:03 with pacers for 3800m.
Wow I didn't realize Teare had such a big last 1600 and 400 in that race.
I think Teare would have just sit and kicked on Fisher. Don't forget Fisher just got out kicked by Klecker who isn't exactly known for his sprint speed.
That 10k was really slow. It would've been nice to see Teare and Klecker in this 5k to know for sure how this would shake out though!
Fisher could’ve made this year’s 1500m team but that’s not saying much. Zero chance he could be “world level” in the 800m, though.
Really impressive win today in the 5k. Hopefully he can medal at Worlds. As good as he is, I still wouldn’t call him a favorite. The Ethiopians not doubling should help his chances.
Incorrect. Fisher wouldn’t have beaten Josh Thompson his teammate.
Why not? Fisher beat Thompson by a second in a 1500 just two weeks ago
…though I guess technically to make the team the man to beat is Gregorek? I mean maybe, but probably not.
On Teare vs Fisher, I think Fisher would have dropped and held off Teare here. But I think Teare might beat Woody and Nur because he could’ve matched Nurs move and had something the last 200.
For those that don't pay attention - Teare ran 13:06 mostly solo in the rain with a 4:05 last 1600 and a 55.85 final lap. He only had a pacer for 1800m. This was in March. Fisher closed in 4:03 with pacers for 3800m.
I know you are just trolling, but in Feb Fisher ran 12:53 with a 3:57 last 1600 and closed in 58. There is ZERO chance Teare would have beaten Fisher today regardless of the race. ZERO chance unless Fisher gets injured. Yesterday, I’d say Fisher would have had a 10% chance of winning, maybe a little better if the race went a bit faster.
Why not? Fisher beat Thompson by a second in a 1500 just two weeks ago
This was a sit and kick-fest and Thompson is rapidly gaining form. Thompson’s top speed is way better than Grants so he’d need to be at the front to hold off that sub-38 last 300 from Thompson
The whole Ethiopian team, Kimeli, Krop, Kiplimo, and Cheptegei can all run that pace comfortably and still close a lot quicker than 60. I can see him beating two of those on a very good day so I think 5h is his ceiling in the 5k. I honestly think Kincaid is a better medal prospect in the 5k since there's always the chance the race goes slow and he has good foot speed
Fisher closed his AR 10000 in 27.4 and beat Ahmed in an all out duel to the line. Seriously, enough with the nonsense he’s not fast enough. If he’s fit enough, and he seems to be, he’s fast enough to compete with the best and win. What is the evidence that Woody is “faster” than Fisher?
A 54 second close compared to Fisher's 60. After the 10k champs, Schumacher said as much to Rojo - he said that race was made for Kincaid with his closing speed.
Look, Fisher performed well today, I'm not disputing that. But perspective is needed. When you see Barega and Kejelcha close a 26:50 race in 51 seconds, as they did at last year's trials, you know there's another level. You think Fisher could have hung with Kimeli and Krop in Rome this year? The competition at 5k is brutal right now
I didn’t see the race but I would imagine he had a bit of a lead at the bell from his surge and didn’t need anything more than a 60 to just shut the race down. I’m sure in a closer race he would have been able to close much faster than he did here
Why not? Fisher beat Thompson by a second in a 1500 just two weeks ago
This was a sit and kick-fest and Thompson is rapidly gaining form. Thompson’s top speed is way better than Grants so he’d need to be at the front to hold off that sub-38 last 300 from Thompson
Actually you're right. If the race played out like yesterday then he doesn't have much of a chance. But I think anything under 3:40 he's in the mix.