Brazilian Daniel Do Nascimento is yet to break 14 minutes but is currently a 2:03 marathoner and very dangerous at races. Watch 2022 New York City marathon.
You seriously think a guy that can run over 8 consecutive 14:39’s can’t run a single one faster than 14:00?
Started running last year and ive done a 16.43 5k on 30 mpw with hard work i feel like i can get to that level rn in about 16.15 5k shape. I feel like I have a good chance to break 14 eventually im 17. Considering my chances.
You are 2 minutes and 43 seconds away from a 14 minute finish. Let that sink it.
That's a lot.
You might get under 16 but anything else is highly delusional.
Not if the boy EPO's up. 14 is doable artificially.
I think the big thing that people are taking issue with, is that you are jumping too far ahead. It's better to focus on short term goals in running (without limiting yourself long term).
If you set yourself a goal of running a PR within the next few months - it'll be a far more motivating experience to hit that goal and then move onto the next, rather constantly thinking "I'm still 2 minutes off my target", etc.
Who knows what you're likely to eventually run. Some people have done a lot from slower than where you're starting from, and others have plateaued early.
The most important thing is just to stick with it, and I fear that with an attitude that's focussed too far in the future, you won't enjoy the present.
You are 2 minutes and 43 seconds away from a 14 minute finish. Let that sink it.
That's a lot.
You might get under 16 but anything else is highly delusional.
Sub 15 is totally viable and low 14:xx isn't unattainable I don't think.
Progression of an athlete I coach:
16 - 17:55
17 - 16:45
18 - 15:52
19 - 15:10
20 - 14:59
21 - 14:28
22 - 14:03
23 - ??
We'll see what he runs this year. Slowly worked up from 25-30mpw at 16 to 80mpw.
In terms of making a living off of it? No, this guy makes about $1,000 a year in prize money which means he can have cash to make sure he has fresh super shoes for races and can fly to a fast race once a year. Not a bad thing to have a hobby on the side that pays for itself which you enjoy.
Can you live on $75 shoe-store gift cards and race-sponsor swag bags? If you only eat on the day of the race, you could steal a lot of Clif Bar samples and try to survive like that. If you stop at all the aid stations to drink, those are "free calories." You could also build a one-man homeless encampment out of those space-blankets they give out at the end of the marathons?
Seriously though, no. After you pay $70 to race your local 5km, you won't make even that much back in "prize money." And assuming you are traveling all around the country to attend races with "big prizes," the travel costs & hotels & plane tickets & gas money will be more than you can win.
So no, there is no way to make a "decent living" by running 14:11 or whatever. There are HS kids breaking 14 these days, they deserve the sponsorships, not guys who would --- if they are lucky --- eventually max out at 14:08 or whatever.
If you are into running to "make a living" then you have chosen the wrong sport. I know several people who ran for Nike (and were sub-3:50 in the 1500m / sub-14) and could not have called the money they made a "decent living."
Based on genetic potential i think i might get around there after just a yr of training have a 70 V02 max. Increasing mileage slowly and added in core and noticing great results. No injuries at all. My goal is to break 16 this year.
You are not naturally good at running. You are trying to run fast and trying to get in shape. That is what we all did. If you were (genetically) a person with sub-14 potential, you'd be good to begin with or show MASSIVE improvements after like 3 months of training. Doing core and eating right doesn't change your DNA.
When Abraham Cherono ran his first 5km back in 8th grade, it was like a 14:40 and he was carrying a book bag.
When Salazar first broke 16 minutes, it was by running alongside the high school boys varsity district race and cheering for his older brother. He wasn't even in the race, he just ran with them so he could cheer the whole time. He was in 7th grade.
I am not saying you should stop training, you shouldn't, but you need to enjoy the process in and of itself. Running is stupid and boring unless you love it. If you love it, you won't quit even if your PR is 13:30 or 15:30 or 17:30. Do you love to run? If so, that is all that matters. If you somehow get really, really good, great! Just don't align your motivation with some random, external outcome.
10-15 years ago that could be enough to get you on some national elite teams (ZAP among others). Even then, ZAP didn't fully sponsor those runners. They had to take part-time jobs.
No. There's lots of men in the UK who can run 14, probably well over 1000 given the depth here.
So there are under 5,000,000 males 18-30 in the UK. Perhaps there are a couple of outliers in the 30-40 range, but few and far between. You’re telling me that currently well over 1000 of them are sub-14? Yeah, uh-huh, sure.
No. There's lots of men in the UK who can run 14, probably well over 1000 given the depth here.
Given that only 144 men (according to the list below) have ever run 13:44 or faster in the UK, I doubt there are well over 1000 guys who can currently run 14 flat or faster.
Why don't you try to or plan to marry a world-class woman runner and you could be her training partner and coach because you guys will be running close to the same time
No. There's lots of men in the UK who can run 14, probably well over 1000 given the depth here.
Given that only 144 men (according to the list below) have ever run 13:44 or faster in the UK, I doubt there are well over 1000 guys who can currently run 14 flat or faster.
I know a few guys who are in this position- the can win prize money but the expenses outweigh the earnings (or at least cut into them enough to make it less than profitable).
It takes a lot of searching to find the races. One guy- 5k,10k- sees now that he was also the victim of a few Kenyans who have since been busted. There's that too.
Don't listen to these chuds. I didn't break 16 until my 2nd year of college and I ran 14:01 this year. Making any kind of meaningful cash is a different story though.
13:45 or even 13:30s today is what 14-flat was 15-20 years ago. Back then you could probably do okay, living in a cheap apartment in the middle to eastern part of the US and traveling to mid-sized road races that offer prize money and consistently running road race times equivalent to 14:00 or a bit under. Probably $300-$1500 a race and do that 20X a year, you'd still need a part time job and have race directors pay for hotel and food for at least a day or two for each race.
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