Are Montrose and Grand Junction expensive?
The interesting parts of WY don’t really have 4 seasons - 9 months of winter and summer.
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Never been out west to the mountains. Where’s the first 2-3 spots to hit?
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I bet land will be cheap near the big New Mexico fire.
Since predominant winds are west to east, look to the west of the fire limit and you'll be safe for a long time.
Smokey
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zzzz wrote:
Anchorage and Palmer have all you are looking for.
Agree with this. I lived in Anchorage for three years and it was amazing. If you can deal with the long, DARK, and cold winters and do not have a problem with feeling very disconnected from the rest of American society it is definitely the place to go. Trials are endless and there are unlimited outdoor activities. Ice climbing on Matanuska Glacier, plenty of peaks to "bag," one of the best ski resorts in America at Alyeska Resort, rock climbing galore, even a few golf courses. I used to watch guys paraglide off of Mount Baldy in Eagle River. There is also a 400-meter indoor track in downtown and saw some nice shows at Sullivan Arena. Unlike the popular locations in Colorado, Utah, Arizona, etc., I don't think Anchorage will ever get very popular due to the severe winters.
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Pinetop-Lakeside AZ bro
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team Unruly Bush wrote:
Are Montrose and Grand Junction expensive?
The interesting parts of WY don’t really have 4 seasons - 9 months of winter and summer.
Grand Junction is probably not too bad.
Maybe on of the better options in Colorado with an Airport and I-70 access.00 -
Durango? Is that place any good???
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New Mexico or West Virginia
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Excuse me, the Univ of Idaho in Moscow is a “white supremacist enclave”?
You’ve obviously never been there. Moscow is a somewhat liberal college town full of 9,000 students, professors and other university employees. Plus some people who work at businesses that support the surrounding Palouse farm community. All just 8 miles from Pullman, WA, home to Wash State University in the Pac-12.
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Good replies everybody now it's time that I had dressed about 20% of you idiots who completely took this out of context. Obviously the mountain access in United States is already sought after property. I'm not looking for a free place to live.
I'm speaking specifically within the context of these desirable locations obviously there is a spectrum across the range of affordability and livability anywhere from tolerable to absurd.
It's not like I'm planning to wagon up and walk across the country fighting bears and Indians looking for untouched land.
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Backpacker wrote:
team Unruly Bush wrote:
Are Montrose and Grand Junction expensive?
The interesting parts of WY don’t really have 4 seasons - 9 months of winter and summer.
Grand Junction is probably not too bad.
Maybe on of the better options in Colorado with an Airport and I-70 access.Montrose has friendlier prices and is about 30 miles out of Telluride. Let's review three valleys starting 30-40 miles out:
1. Montrose-Ridgeway-Telluride-like towns-Telluride
2. Glenwood Springs-Carbondale-Aspen/Snowmass
3. Gunnison-Crested Butte
In my opinion, the endpoints of each list of cities are somewhat equivalent. But what sets #2 Aspen apart from #1 and #3 above is the cities that lead up to it and serve as bases for needs & wants. Glenwood Springs has decent commerce and grocery stores. Carbondale is like a Naperville, IL that randomly occurs in the mountains (unique).
I cant place Gunnison or Montrose on the same level as Glenwood Springs. Sorry! The grocery stores in both are what lessens my interest. Theyre trash. Also, the takeback to Glenwood Springs is that it is well developed and has the multi million dollar skyrocketed prices for homes as well as a unusually high crime rate.
If we were to inject #04 Steamboat Springs into this post, understand that it doesnt have or need the lead up cities the same as the other valleys. Steamboat Springs is the city with the commerce, the mountain town feel and ski resort all in one. Aspen, Telluride and Crested Butte are otherwise very town-like despite their formal distinction. One main street at the endpoint of life.
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Kringle wrote:
I'm looking to relocate somewhere with immediate and highly accessible mountain access for both winter and summer activities. Paragliding hiking mountain biking snowboarding cross-country skiing camping you get the picture.
California seems like a no-go since the entire state is populated densely in all of the desirable locations near mountains. Also I just hate California.
Immediately it feels like writing off Colorado has it's already overrun and a nightmare just to get into the mountains. Too expensive.
Boise shows some promise although the mountains there are mediocre until you get further north also things are starting to get very expensive there as it's getting found out.
Montana and Wyoming have some potential although I will admit that I am less familiar with the real estate situation in these two states, I do understand that there is an extensive trail Network great skiing great biking and four seasons.
Arizona is too hot Sedona is touristy Flagstaff has some potential.
Nevada has some potential all over the desirable locations near California are basically tourism nightmares near Tahoe. Being in Reno could work.
Portland and seattle, already trendy and expensive. Not nearly to the extent that Colorado and California are but not 100% idea either. I would think about it but probably giving it a no. Just within my own circle I know numerous people moving there within the last couple years. Yes to the east is beautiful four season terrain but it's not something you can access after work it's a bit of a hike to get out there.
Have been to salt lake City a couple of times and thoroughly enjoyed myself however I don't know what the real estate situation is here. Depending on your proximity you can have year round mountain access both weekends and and this is huge after work as well.
As an East coaster, who only travels out west for vacations. My intimate knowledge of small pockets scattered throughout these states that are more off the map but still livable, is super limited. I really need some suggestions for places that are a little bit more off the map and less "scene" than the major cities that I've mentioned.
After all that I've mentioned, this basically leaves us with the Northeast New England region for which I personally am actually a huge fan of. Maine New Hampshire Vermont and New York have good mountain access with four distinct seasons and a serious winter with heavy snow.
Albany ,ellicottville, lake placid, and the other towns and cities in New York are situated between the heart of the heaviest snowbelt regions and the Adirondacks. Cost of living is very affordable. Job prospects are either standard or next to none depending on where you are. Taxes suck.
Vermont basically has Burlington then some small ski towns like Stowe. Amazing mountain access and four season activity. Same goes for new Hampshire with the white mountains.
Maine is a big sleeper on this list I feel. North-ish Maine has epic winters and actually pretty big elevation for the north east
To be continued
Checkout Craig, CO for friendly prices. No guarantee on grocery stores.
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There are a lot of towns that have easy mountain access and are not popular or expensive. But they are not popular for a reason. Raton and Las Vegas, NM. Craig, Alamosa, Salida, Trinidad, CO. Most towns in WY. Just about any town in Utah outside of the Wasatch Front and resort areas, Moab, St George or Cedar City.
Pretty much any town that relies on tourism and/or skiing as it’s only industry will be expensive. If you don’t care if a town has jobs, Whole Foods, brew pubs, or coffee houses there are a lot of options. You will also probably really feel like an outsider.
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you should pay me for this wrote:
Far north California, Susanville, Mt. Shasta Eureka etc.
Ashland, Medford, Klamath Falls, OR. Bend has gotten expensive and trendy but Redmond or Prineville are close by.
Yakima, Wenatchee, WA.
Idaho has gone to the white supremees so you might stay out that place
Bozeman and Missoula are probably getting too expensive but some outlying areas might be okay. Billings or Helena would have potential.
Give Casper, or Sheridan WY a look. It's a lot like the Front Range of CO but these are relatively small towns. Right next to the mountains.
OP wrote off Colorado, but West Slope towns of Grand Junction, Montrose, Cortez, Durango, Pagosa Springs are pretty far out of the way.
Santa Fe, NM.
Yakima is a dump. Don’t move there
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It’s also the home of the cult, Christ Church, and it’s unqualified, self-ordained pastor, Doug Wilson. They’re such awful people they have a “scandals” tab on their website.
don’t move to Moscow, ID00 -
Others that haven't been mentioned:
Canon City, CO. Cheap and great trail and mountain access. It's not the greatest city but I firmly believe it's the next place to boom in CO.
Pinedale WY, but you are REALLY out there.
Victor or Driggs ID
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funny...i was in reno for the first time a year ago and couldn't believe how big of a dump it was. Literally one of the trashiest places I've been too and I was coming from Seattle a month before.
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I actually kinda liked Reno ans Carson City for running. The river trail in Reno was nice but kinda overrun with homeless people like seemingly every major city west of the Rockies. The drive to Tahoe wasn't bad to visit family for me plus the running there is pretty great.
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From me
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Visited eastern Wyoming last summer. Buffalo, over to Gillette, and Hulett. Definitely affordable, wide open, inexpensive, and mountainous. But if you love vaxxes, masks, Liz Cheney and hate guns, definitely don't move there.
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