SP doesn't get one because he's the most over rated and over hyped athlete of all time, which is recognised by people outside of T&F but not by some of the fawning sycophants here.
SP doesn't get one because he's the most over rated and over hyped athlete of all time, which is recognised by people outside of T&F but not by some of the fawning sycophants here.
You are and you will be..........................a long time.
As someone who is significantly smarter than you, and no it’s not close, I can tell you that Pre is a legend, without in any way being a fanboy myself. Is he overhyped in relation to his achievements? Yes, which is a great testament to his charisma I guess. How else would one explain it? Pre was the kind of man you could never be, and I imagine for that you will never forgive him.
Oregon22 Heritage Trail plaque eligibility was based on four criteria: achieving global medal status, no doping violations or connection to doping, retired from professional competition, and a resident connection to Oregon before or beyond college competition.
It's clear why both Pre and Rupp are eliminated - Pre doesn't have a global medal and Rupp is connected to doping.
I agree with another poster that it's controversial for Shalane to be on the list given the Shelby connection. You could argue it's a looser connect than Rupp's since Shalane's connection was as a coach whereas Rupp's performance could have benefited from his situation; at the same time Rupp only has a connection gray-area violations vs. Shelby being convicted of actual doping.
Tough call. I don't feel strongly about her being excluded since I personally don't think she helped Shelby dope, though at the same time it doesn't feel consistent.
He only had one shot which was at Munich. It was a very slow pace and he started to push from about a mile out. He went for the win during the last lap, got dropped and then passed by Stewart during the last 50m. Stewart said that he didn’t think he would have gotten the Bronze if Pre hadn’t gone after Viren and Gammoudi.
With your high level of maturity and racing savvy, what would your strategy have been had you been Pre? Would you have wimped out and conceded the Gold and Silver?
It was a very slow pace...No 10 seconds from the world record is not a very slow pace.
Maybe you should actually watch the video of the race. The first 3000m was in 8:20.
Oregon22 Heritage Trail plaque eligibility was based on four criteria: achieving global medal status, no doping violations or connection to doping, retired from professional competition, and a resident connection to Oregon before or beyond college competition.
It's clear why both Pre and Rupp are eliminated - Pre doesn't have a global medal and Rupp is connected to doping.
I agree with another poster that it's controversial for Shalane to be on the list given the Shelby connection. You could argue it's a looser connect than Rupp's since Shalane's connection was as a coach whereas Rupp's performance could have benefited from his situation; at the same time Rupp only has a connection gray-area violations vs. Shelby being convicted of actual doping.
Tough call. I don't feel strongly about her being excluded since I personally don't think she helped Shelby dope, though at the same time it doesn't feel consistent.
That is pretty straight forward. Pre never medaled because he was too obstinate or immature to win a medal.
He only had one shot which was at Munich. It was a very slow pace and he started to push from about a mile out. He went for the win during the last lap, got dropped and then passed by Stewart during the last 50m. Stewart said that he didn’t think he would have gotten the Bronze if Pre hadn’t gone after Viren and Gammoudi.
With your high level of maturity and racing savvy, what would your strategy have been had you been Pre? Would you have wimped out and conceded the Gold and Silver?
The problem wasn't going from a ways out, it was several wasteful moves on the backstretch trying to get to 200 to go first when Gammoudi was forcing him wide. If he would've waited until 100 to go he would've been battling for silver. The whole "I'm not talented boo hoo I ran 8:41 on a gravel track in high school" mindset screwed him.
Oregon22 Heritage Trail plaque eligibility was based on four criteria: achieving global medal status, no doping violations or connection to doping, retired from professional competition, and a resident connection to Oregon before or beyond college competition.
It's clear why both Pre and Rupp are eliminated - Pre doesn't have a global medal and Rupp is connected to doping.
I agree with another poster that it's controversial for Shalane to be on the list given the Shelby connection. You could argue it's a looser connect than Rupp's since Shalane's connection was as a coach whereas Rupp's performance could have benefited from his situation; at the same time Rupp only has a connection gray-area violations vs. Shelby being convicted of actual doping.
Tough call. I don't feel strongly about her being excluded since I personally don't think she helped Shelby dope, though at the same time it doesn't feel consistent.