It’s highly irresponsible for him to seed himself at 3:30. Wasn’t he a coach? Webb should know not to used 15 year old seed numbers. it’s an irritating part of the job to sort fake entry times when seeding a meet.
It’s highly irresponsible for him to seed himself at 3:30. Wasn’t he a coach? Webb should know not to used 15 year old seed numbers. it’s an irritating part of the job to sort fake entry times when seeding a meet.
how to say "i haven't actually looked at the heat sheets" without saying "i haven't looked at the heat sheets."
chill man, yes it sucks when people put fake seed times in and it keeps faster people from being in the "right" race, but in this case alan is racing against guys whose seed times range from 3:55 for 2nd fastest down to 4:26 for 16th. the slow heat ranges from 4:31 down to 5:48 and one with NT.
I remember when Alan was a strong age group swimmer in Reston who converted to running at South Lakes. He was nearly state champion in cross country as a frosh in a state, Virginia, that had many competitive programs and a rich history. He was an immense talent and still has the U.S. mile record. We locals remember his astounding 13:57 solo from the gun time at Burke Lake Park over a 2.98 mile cross country course, a time still 22 seconds ahead of 50 years of runners including some sub 4:05 milers and eventual US national Junior or Senior team members. He will forever be a U.S. all timer.
Now, as a 39 year old with a young family and no recent races, a 4:15 would be pretty remarkable and among the best his age in the U.S. for 39 year olds who have talent plus 2 full years of recent training. I figure 4:25 and lots of graciousness and happiness about still being fast and not broken after his 10+ years of super intensive training. I wonder if this means Alan will be a masters runner who inspires many others to do the same and helps popularize the sport that way as Bill Rogers did for an earlier generation. He’s got the talent plus the sociability and genuine interest in others to fill that role if he wants it. I am rooting for him, once again.
If he's in any halfway decent fitness (meaning not much more than running 20-30 miles per week), he'll be closer to 4:30 mile pace than 4:50 mile pace. He is one of the most insanely talented US runners ever.
And for the record, I believe the second fastest time at Burke Lake is still by Sharif Karie, who was far more than just a "4:05" miler. Karie was 2x Footlocker nationals runner up and beat an absolutely stacked field at outdoor nats his senior year in the mile in about a 4:02 (after the race had two prolonged false starts). Webb destroyed Karie's time at Burke Lake.
Good luck to Alan. Hopefully he's staying healthy and enjoys racing again.
for those that missed it, he went 26:02 for 8k last month. roughly converts to 4:15 for 1500 and he was always better at the more anaerobic events obviously, despite dropping some excellent 5000 and 10000 times along the way.
I remember when Alan was a strong age group swimmer in Reston who converted to running at South Lakes. He was nearly state champion in cross country as a frosh in a state, Virginia, that had many competitive programs and a rich history. He was an immense talent and still has the U.S. mile record. We locals remember his astounding 13:57 solo from the gun time at Burke Lake Park over a 2.98 mile cross country course, a time still 22 seconds ahead of 50 years of runners including some sub 4:05 milers and eventual US national Junior or Senior team members. He will forever be a U.S. all timer.
Now, as a 39 year old with a young family and no recent races, a 4:15 would be pretty remarkable and among the best his age in the U.S. for 39 year olds who have talent plus 2 full years of recent training. I figure 4:25 and lots of graciousness and happiness about still being fast and not broken after his 10+ years of super intensive training. I wonder if this means Alan will be a masters runner who inspires many others to do the same and helps popularize the sport that way as Bill Rogers did for an earlier generation. He’s got the talent plus the sociability and genuine interest in others to fill that role if he wants it. I am rooting for him, once again.
If he's in any halfway decent fitness (meaning not much more than running 20-30 miles per week), he'll be closer to 4:30 mile pace than 4:50 mile pace. He is one of the most insanely talented US runners ever.
And for the record, I believe the second fastest time at Burke Lake is still by Sharif Karie, who was far more than just a "4:05" miler. Karie was 2x Footlocker nationals runner up and beat an absolutely stacked field at outdoor nats his senior year in the mile in about a 4:02 (after the race had two prolonged false starts). Webb destroyed Karie's time at Burke Lake.
Good luck to Alan. Hopefully he's staying healthy and enjoys racing again.
Karie was a beast. Never really got it going at Arkansas, but my friends there at the time said he was absolutely destroying everyone in XC workouts- ahead by as much as 100m- but didn’t ever truly put it together in a race. And at least one of those Hogs teams won NCAA XC.
The prolonged false starts were actually falls and the race being called back. Pretty sure Ryan Travis fell two times. Then Karie ran 4:02 to beat Gabe Jennings, Jonathon Riley, etc.
I remember when Alan was a strong age group swimmer in Reston who converted to running at South Lakes. He was nearly state champion in cross country as a frosh in a state, Virginia, that had many competitive programs and a rich history. He was an immense talent and still has the U.S. mile record. We locals remember his astounding 13:57 solo from the gun time at Burke Lake Park over a 2.98 mile cross country course, a time still 22 seconds ahead of 50 years of runners including some sub 4:05 milers and eventual US national Junior or Senior team members. He will forever be a U.S. all timer.
Now, as a 39 year old with a young family and no recent races, a 4:15 would be pretty remarkable and among the best his age in the U.S. for 39 year olds who have talent plus 2 full years of recent training. I figure 4:25 and lots of graciousness and happiness about still being fast and not broken after his 10+ years of super intensive training. I wonder if this means Alan will be a masters runner who inspires many others to do the same and helps popularize the sport that way as Bill Rogers did for an earlier generation. He’s got the talent plus the sociability and genuine interest in others to fill that role if he wants it. I am rooting for him, once again.
If he's in any halfway decent fitness (meaning not much more than running 20-30 miles per week), he'll be closer to 4:30 mile pace than 4:50 mile pace. He is one of the most insanely talented US runners ever.
And for the record, I believe the second fastest time at Burke Lake is still by Sharif Karie, who was far more than just a "4:05" miler. Karie was 2x Footlocker nationals runner up and beat an absolutely stacked field at outdoor nats his senior year in the mile in about a 4:02 (after the race had two prolonged false starts). Webb destroyed Karie's time at Burke Lake.
Good luck to Alan. Hopefully he's staying healthy and enjoys racing again.
As an old-timer who has run the Burke Lake course many times, I continue to be amazed at Webb's 13:57 there. And yes, the second fastest time is held by Sharif Karie, tied later by Sean McGorty, at 14:19. Good luck Alan.
I would normally agree but we can't have two black pages on the same night.
Should we do a black page for Webb or one for the death of Evan Jager's career as a global player on the elite scene?
Note to self. Come on rojo, don't be a pessimist. Talent doesn't go away!!
y'all literally the reason this board is so negative and pros shun it like the plague.
wish elon musk would offer you guys a little bit of cash to walk away and turn this thing around. like for real you and your brother would be doing the running community a huge favor if you sold it and walked away. built up a solid product but have been holding it back for years now.
If Elon Musk's deal for twitter falls through, maybe he'll buy us as he would love this place. If he bought us, he'd keep it just as is. He believes in free speech - that's the whole reason why he wants to buy twitter. And yet you are telling me to self censure myself becasue my funny joke was a little bit mean?
Please. The pros don't avoid this place like the plague. If they are smart, I hope they stay off the messageboard or stay off the threads about them. I sure hope Tom Brady isn't spending time reading what some random fan thinks about him on patriotfansbotcom.
My post was a joke. This is a fan forum. I don't think fans are ever given enough of a voice in sports. The owners and players have huge says, get to regularly go on strike, and always gorge the consumers, whether it's with publicly financed stadiums for billionaires or ridiculous ticket prices.
(Do not reply to this post as it's off topic and I want to keep this thread about Webb. Off topic posts generally get deleted but I wanted to defend myself instead of just deleting your thread derailing post).
for those that missed it, he went 26:02 for 8k last month. roughly converts to 4:15 for 1500 and he was always better at the more anaerobic events obviously, despite dropping some excellent 5000 and 10000 times along the way.
Based on this reasoning, if I'd have to guess I'd say he'll go 4:09. Which is very respectable as people have been saying
for those that missed it, he went 26:02 for 8k last month. roughly converts to 4:15 for 1500 and he was always better at the more anaerobic events obviously, despite dropping some excellent 5000 and 10000 times along the way.
Based on this reasoning, if I'd have to guess I'd say he'll go 4:09. Which is very respectable as people have been saying
Yea I was going to say 4:09 too, but to be different I'll go 4:07.55
Just curious, has Webb mentioned any running goals for the near future, like maybe competing as a competitive masters runner on the national level? He's run quite the range, from 1,500m through the marathon, and it seems like he's having fun.
I still enjoy watching reruns of the 2001 Pre Mile. That was quite a race.
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