Nothing blows my mind more than this. I just cannot wrap my head around how this is happening. What are the long term repercussions of this on a society? Mass acceptance of this is just insane. it’s not just about swimming, it means so much more. It’s sick. it’s so incredibly disturbing that this is happening.
After all, it's been reported in some press outlets that Thomas boasts of being "the trans Jackie Robinson."
It hardly seems comparable. Jackie Robinson moved up to compete against better quality athletes. Lia Thomas moved down to compete against lesser quality athletes.
Of course it's not comparable. Thomas is punching down. It's also supreme arrogance, and a grotesque appropriation of black Americans' struggle for civil rights Thomas hasn't spent all Thomas's life experiencing the kinds of horrible discrimination, abuse and violence Robinson faced. No one has discriminated against Thomas. Thomas has gotten everything Thomas has wanted handed to Thomas on a proverbial silver platter.
Thomas is a heterosexual Caucasian male who grew up as the wealthy, pampered, cocksure American son of a supportive, intact family with oodles of "white male privilege." Thomas has always enjoyed excellent, robust health and grew up with the best education and sports and coaching opportunities imaginable. During adolescence, Thomas had the good fortune to develop the intimidating build of a strapping adult male with a height of nearly 6'4. Yet now we're supposed to believe that by claiming to "identify as" a woman, Thomas has been transformed into one of the most oppressed, marginalized and vulnerable people on planet earth.
Jackie Robinson challenged white supremacy. Lia Thomas epitomizes male supremacy
Thomas is demonstrating that some males have figured out a clever new way lord it over and mistreat females - and to be applauded and given awards for it
You could have posted this before the race even started. Obviously Lia Thomas was going to win. Male chromosomes and testes are a powerful combination when competing against female chromosomes and ovaries.
I would have thought two balls in your bathing suit would slow you down while in the water.
Truly pathetic. We have given up as a rational people.
The bad part is that gender counseling for young biologically normal kids is an agenda item for just as many or more than men being able to compete in women's sports is.
There was this idiot woman on NPR being hosted like the smartest person in the world going on about how she knew her husband was misgendering their son, no daughter from the time he was 1 or something like that. There are way too many people endorsing kooks like this.
They never question if sibling rivalry or extreme parental favoritism of an opposite-sex sibling or other family dynamics, like an ignorant or crazy person calling the shots in the house.
The Mom of the gender-changing kid, was so happy because after 5 years her husband realized he was wrong all along. Trust the science.
It's insanity. We have a situation where a small group of zealots are attempting to coerce people to acquiesce to a radical theory about gender that has no basis in reality, bootstrapping this theory to identity politics where group rights are advocated above individual rights and mistreatment of individuals is rationalized as accomplishing some alleged higher good. And although a very fringe minority, they have the help of powerful institutions (the media, social media, the NCAA, etc). Thomas is among the most spoiled and privileged people in sports. Everything was made subordinate to his personal pleasure and if this hurt or mistreated the female athletes he was competing against the institutions in control did not care. In fact cruelty and rubbing it in women's faces was the entire point. This was political tribalism. We are in the midst of a societal nervous breakdown and this stupidity is part of it.
It hardly seems comparable. Jackie Robinson moved up to compete against better quality athletes. Lia Thomas moved down to compete against lesser quality athletes.
Of course it's not comparable. Thomas is punching down. It's also supreme arrogance, and a grotesque appropriation of black Americans' struggle for civil rights Thomas hasn't spent all Thomas's life experiencing the kinds of horrible discrimination, abuse and violence Robinson faced. No one has discriminated against Thomas. Thomas has gotten everything Thomas has wanted handed to Thomas on a proverbial silver platter.
Thomas is a heterosexual Caucasian male who grew up as the wealthy, pampered, cocksure American son of a supportive, intact family with oodles of "white male privilege." Thomas has always enjoyed excellent, robust health and grew up with the best education and sports and coaching opportunities imaginable. During adolescence, Thomas had the good fortune to develop the intimidating build of a strapping adult male with a height of nearly 6'4. Yet now we're supposed to believe that by claiming to "identify as" a woman, Thomas has been transformed into one of the most oppressed, marginalized and vulnerable people on planet earth.
Jackie Robinson challenged white supremacy. Lia Thomas epitomizes male supremacy
Thomas is demonstrating that some males have figured out a clever new way lord it over and mistreat females - and to be applauded and given awards for it
Nice job avoiding pronoun use but to extrapolate this instance or even just sports related instances to transgenderism as a whole is not logical. I don’t know whether Lia Thomas is a bad person or whatever, but even if that were true, it doesn’t mean all transgender people are bad people. There are plenty of transgender people trying to live normal lives and I think you are essentially insulting them when you propose that trans women are just men trying to further oppress women. It’s like if Hitler was a hardcore feminist.
It's insanity. We have a situation where a small group of zealots are attempting to coerce people to acquiesce to a radical theory about gender that has no basis in reality, bootstrapping this theory to identity politics where group rights are advocated above individual rights and mistreatment of individuals is rationalized as accomplishing some alleged higher good. And although a very fringe minority, they have the help of powerful institutions (the media, social media, the NCAA, etc). Thomas is among the most spoiled and privileged people in sports. Everything was made subordinate to his personal pleasure and if this hurt or mistreated the female athletes he was competing against the institutions in control did not care. In fact cruelty and rubbing it in women's faces was the entire point. This was political tribalism. We are in the midst of a societal nervous breakdown and this stupidity is part of it.
I can’t tell if you’re talking about Lia Thomas or transgenderism in general.
The vast majority of people, left and right, agree that trans women competing against biological women is crazy. I’ve secretly been hoping an elite male will switch sides and blow the women’s world records out of the water just to undeniably expose how ridiculous this all is. Like have a trans woman pop a 1:46 800 or something crazy. Seems like it’s only a matter of time.
If you’re at all talking about transgenderism in general then we diverge. If people want to dress like the opposite sex, change their name, change their pronouns, take drugs, have surgery - whatever, I could not give a crap and I’ll be respectful and use their new name if it makes them happy. Trans people say they were born with how they feel. I get it, very much about how I act and feel seems like it’s biological. And even if it weren’t, hey none of my business how a consenting adult lives their life.
I don’t find the idea that sex and gender are different to be at all radical.
I'm talking solely about sports. In swimming as in track high school boys times are faster than the fastest female times and in the NCAA hundreds of guys can run or swim faster than the fastest female. Thomas was ranked 450th. This was a total farce made more absurd by the gaslighting and false virtue signaling.
kind of pathetic he couldnt break the college record. I was a bad male college runner and I could have set the world record in my event for women
Thomas was smart enough to get into an Ivy League school, which means Thomas is smart enough to not break the women's college record on purpose. Then Thomas can say, "See, I'm not that good. There have been women who have gone faster than me."
It's the same reason that Caster Semenya took it easy in a lot of races and never broke the women's 800 world record. It's hard to claim that everything is fair when you go faster than any women has ever gone before.
So Thomas did the same thing as Semenya. Go fast enough to win, but don't break any records.
BS. No amount of testosterone reduction can offset the biological advantages. This is a complete farce predicated on the notion that one person's self-centeredness gets to override everything else.
That's why the USA Swimming's new rule has this clause.
"Evidence that the prior physical development of the athlete as a male, as mitigated by any medical intervention, does not give the athlete a competitive advantage over the athlete’s cisgender female competitors."
But Thomas told Sports Illustrated recently that Thomas is hoping to continue swimming competitively after college and hopes to make it to the Olympics. This was well after USA Swimming announced its new policy.
I would not be surprised if Thomas legally challenged the new policy. I don't think the lawsuit will be successful. Thomas competed as a male for long enough to provide the USA Swimming many data points they can use for their defense.
It's ok to send weapons into the Ukraine to wipe out Russians but oh no no no no migs the migs might make Putin mad........what??? Is that stupid or what?
Trump gets his butt kicked but the election was rigged,....hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! Do wish we had him now.
Going around wearing a mask for no real reason of any kind, wow!!!!!
A dude thinking beating girls in swimming is ......what? A big deal? Cool? What?
What a weird world we live in and it's getting worst, hell.....electric cars?
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