I was working 40-60 for 50-60k in my early 20s and wanted to shoot myself on a regular basis. went back to school and now i make decent money(more than double what i was making), work fewer hours in a remote position. life's a lot better
I was working 40-60 for 50-60k in my early 20s and wanted to shoot myself on a regular basis. went back to school and now i make decent money(more than double what i was making), work fewer hours in a remote position. life's a lot better
you were upset about making 50-60k? That's more than the average income of most. I get you in terms of wanting to grow and not settle but a lot of LRCs make much more than average people and there's a huge survivorship bias (not you specifically) here about how much people earn and how fast they run.
(i.e., no specific person, but: "I ONLY make 100k" or "I ONLY run 15:30/33/1:16/2:45").
I was working 40-60 for 50-60k in my early 20s and wanted to shoot myself on a regular basis. went back to school and now i make decent money(more than double what i was making), work fewer hours in a remote position. life's a lot better
you were upset about making 50-60k? That's more than the average income of most. I get you in terms of wanting to grow and not settle but a lot of LRCs make much more than average people and there's a huge survivorship bias (not you specifically) here about how much people earn and how fast they run.
(i.e., no specific person, but: "I ONLY make 100k" or "I ONLY run 15:30/33/1:16/2:45").
Well I didn't really think about what I wanted to be doing for my whole life in terms of a career. I was talented academically so just put in the minimum effort to cruise through school while screwing around, which led me to drift into a job i had no interest in doing.
The depression came from the realization that, maybe similar to OP, notonly did I hate my current role but I felt no respect or admiration for my boss or even the owners of the company. There wasn't a single person in the building whose job I wanted to be doing, even if it paid a lot better than mine.
The job I do now I actually enjoy doing the work almost every day, besides the additional benefits of better pay, slightly less hours and working from home.
As far as LRC bias, I guess everyone has to hold their own standards based on their circumstances and talents (mostly dumb luck). For someone like myself, making 100k+ was almost a given. If I hadn't reached that it would have been a stunning failure based on the opportunities I had and mental talents.
On the other hand, the idea of ever running anything close to 15:30 for me is a pipe dream. the two don't belong in the same universe for someone like me, given my lack of athletic talent. Even though I run every day I am more likely to make 1m/yr than to ever hit 15:30(age 29 currently). As much as I would love to reach those kind of times, I just don't think it's in the cards for me.
you were upset about making 50-60k? That's more than the average income of most. I get you in terms of wanting to grow and not settle but a lot of LRCs make much more than average people and there's a huge survivorship bias (not you specifically) here about how much people earn and how fast they run.
(i.e., no specific person, but: "I ONLY make 100k" or "I ONLY run 15:30/33/1:16/2:45").
Well I didn't really think about what I wanted to be doing for my whole life in terms of a career. I was talented academically so just put in the minimum effort to cruise through school while screwing around, which led me to drift into a job i had no interest in doing.
The depression came from the realization that, maybe similar to OP, notonly did I hate my current role but I felt no respect or admiration for my boss or even the owners of the company. There wasn't a single person in the building whose job I wanted to be doing, even if it paid a lot better than mine.
The job I do now I actually enjoy doing the work almost every day, besides the additional benefits of better pay, slightly less hours and working from home.
As far as LRC bias, I guess everyone has to hold their own standards based on their circumstances and talents (mostly dumb luck). For someone like myself, making 100k+ was almost a given. If I hadn't reached that it would have been a stunning failure based on the opportunities I had and mental talents.
On the other hand, the idea of ever running anything close to 15:30 for me is a pipe dream. the two don't belong in the same universe for someone like me, given my lack of athletic talent. Even though I run every day I am more likely to make 1m/yr than to ever hit 15:30(age 29 currently). As much as I would love to reach those kind of times, I just don't think it's in the cards for me.
Thanks for clarifying it, I was struggling for awhile and made a regretful mistake by going into journalism into college. I've been trying to figure out how to make an honest living since 2006 and not get stuck. Tech writing is a huge thing in Central Ohio but it is insanely difficult to get in, even with writing and software dev experience.
you were upset about making 50-60k? That's more than the average income of most. I get you in terms of wanting to grow and not settle but a lot of LRCs make much more than average people and there's a huge survivorship bias (not you specifically) here about how much people earn and how fast they run.
(i.e., no specific person, but: "I ONLY make 100k" or "I ONLY run 15:30/33/1:16/2:45").
Well I didn't really think about what I wanted to be doing for my whole life in terms of a career. I was talented academically so just put in the minimum effort to cruise through school while screwing around, which led me to drift into a job i had no interest in doing.
The depression came from the realization that, maybe similar to OP, notonly did I hate my current role but I felt no respect or admiration for my boss or even the owners of the company. There wasn't a single person in the building whose job I wanted to be doing, even if it paid a lot better than mine.
The job I do now I actually enjoy doing the work almost every day, besides the additional benefits of better pay, slightly less hours and working from home.
As far as LRC bias, I guess everyone has to hold their own standards based on their circumstances and talents (mostly dumb luck). For someone like myself, making 100k+ was almost a given. If I hadn't reached that it would have been a stunning failure based on the opportunities I had and mental talents.
On the other hand, the idea of ever running anything close to 15:30 for me is a pipe dream. the two don't belong in the same universe for someone like me, given my lack of athletic talent. Even though I run every day I am more likely to make 1m/yr than to ever hit 15:30(age 29 currently). As much as I would love to reach those kind of times, I just don't think it's in the cards for me.
You hit the nail on the head brother. I am currently in the situation you described. I am hourly wage so the longs hours seem intentionally set up that way because they know that more hours will be money in the employees eyes without realizing the scheme. I don’t not idealize any of my superiors but upward advancement is inevitable just for being competent
with promotion to manager in a year or so. I do not know what to do. I see the hours the current manger puts it and it seems miserable. It’s way more than 50 when you add up the after hours calls and weekend calls.
I don’t know if it worth grinding through without knowing how much more $ it will be.
I value time over $ and do not want to waste my youth in something that requires long hours while having no passion for the field of work.
If you don't enjoy it now you're not going to enjoy it any more later...
Shoot for the moon even if you miss you'll land among the stars.
People are too scared to take risks. The institution has set people up to think this way. Even if their job sucks, they're scared to leave it because they are afraid to do worse and lose what (little) they have.
You do realize that the stars are way further than the moon.
You tell us. Is it worth it? Only the individual can decide. That's not a lot of money for devoting a huge amount of your life to it. But if you love the work, then maybe it is worth it.
I think there are a lot of people on here that want to give you advice OP, but unless you give us some more information that will be tough to do. You say that you are in sales...what type of sales? What industry are you selling in?
I work in eCommerce SaaS, which has a variety of products that can be sold. An entry level BDR typically makes in between $40-50k and will put in 40-50 hours of work a week. An Executive Account Manager (still sales, they just close our big clients) will work 50 hours a week and make closer to $150k. Without understanding the industry you are selling in, or the product you sell, it's very hard to advise.
There are plenty of people out there that work 50 hours a week (two part-time jobs, entry level teachers, department managers in retail, etc.) that make less than $50k a year. There are also people that work 30-40 hours a week and make well over $100k. All of those people are on these boards. Give us some more detail to work with, and I bet you'll get some solid advice.
What do you think your other options are? Are the alternatives $40K for 40 hours, similar pay for fewer hours, etc.? Whether you should stick with this or not completely depends on what you would be doing instead.
Keep in mind it's a crazy job market right now - employees have all the leverage.
kind of hard to tell since you didn't specify the industry. 50 hrs isn't THAT MUCH time and presumably you run and you can fit it in before or after work. You said so yourself you have upward mobility. sounds like you kind of just hate your job
Let me tell you right away, it's not worth it. Considering that the prices of everything around you are going up, you need to pay for utilities, get well dressed, provide for your children, and go on vacation at least once a year.
Oh, i forgot to mention that you can't live on all these needs on a salary of $50,000 yearly. I made an important step in my life by changing my occupation. I now work at Microsoft, where my annual general manager salary is $ 200,000. It's great, isn't it? - Now the choice is yours. Take advantage of the extensive benefits package in our company. I'm sure you'll forget what a thankless paycheck for hard work means.
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