Hahahaha. Another example of white people trying wayyyy to hard.
Hahahaha. Another example of white people trying wayyyy to hard.
White guilt prevents many whites from being honest and saying the commercial is stupid.
They are as bad as trump cult members not being able to say trump lost.
weird weird weird wrote:
White guilt prevents many whites from being honest and saying the commercial is stupid.
They are as bad as trump cult members not being able to say trump lost.
What's weird weird weird is how the most popualr president ever, became the most unpopular in under a year. Weird weird weird.
Also, lol...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdc-q3biLm8TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
boomer watch wrote:
Can’t wait to hear what a bunch of bitter white men have to say about the experience of being black!
Yea it's not the people who define their entire identity on something that happened to someone else over 150 years ago that are bitter it's everyone else... LOL!
In a thread filled with out-of-touch and clueless posts, this one takes the cake. Congratulations!
I think the black athlete's challenge is that there is a lack of diversity in winter sports and speed skating in particular. The commercial isn't about people overcoming disabilities but challenges. It's hard to be something without having any sort of role models....
I also had cancer and did chemotherapy. Our challenges are different and I don't see an issue with the commercial. I DO think that just a little bit, using "CANCER!" "DISABILITY!" "RACE!" as the very common "CHALLENGES!" Is quite tropey. They sure managed to fit all of us people suffering and overcoming into one commercial! If only Visa would cover my chemo bills.
Allow me an allegory.
There once was an athlete who broke his neck. He was at the top of his game. But due to circumstance, all of it was taken away. He went from elite athlete to quadriplegic. Overnight. He spent 6 months in the hospital. Of those months, he was completely paralyzed for 3 of them. Unable to move a single muscle.
Due to grit and determination, after 3 months of paralysis, the athlete could move his right wrist. Nothing major. Just a twitch. But it was SOMETHING. He celebrated that accomplishment, and it encouraged him to continue TRYING.
After 3 more grueling months in the hospital, he eventually got to the point where he could WALK. Again, nothing major. He still needed a walker to lean on because his muscles had atrophied.
While in the hospital, the athlete’s wife left him. Can’t blame her, right? The athlete was paralyzed, so how COULD he satisfy her? His friends left him too. Not at first. But after a month or two of visits, the friends couldn’t find the time to visit him anymore. To lift his spirits. Can’t blame the though. They wanted to do “young people things”. And hanging around a cripple who can’t even move, hanging around a hospital bed wasn’t their thing.
Fast forward 5 years. Five long….GRUELING years. During which time that former athlete went through daily (and painful) physical treatment. Longing for the day he could get back to normal. His wife, nor his friends returned to him during this time. They had all moved on with their lives. The former athlete too.
As a result of this TIRELESS effort, over several years, the former athlete became good again at his sport. A shadow of his former greatness, but still good enough for the Olympics. His friends wanted to return. But the athlete held them at arms length - “where were they when I needed them? And NOW they want to be my friend again? AFTER I make the Olympics?”, he reasoned.
At the Olympics, his tale of determination and tenacity was featured. How could it NOT be. There was even a media session where his story was told.
Also at the media session was a speed skater. She chimed in, “yeah. I know EXACTLY what you’re talking about. I have that SAME tenacity and gritty determination that YOU have. I’ve had to overcome just as much as you have”.
Intrigued, the media inquires about HER heroic story.
The speed skater responds: “I’m African American. And I’m surrounded by people who AREN’T”
The audience ERUPTS. But not how you might expect. They erupt……….IN CHEERS. The crowd rushes the stage to carry off their hero on their shoulders, chanting her name the whole time. They trampled the former paraplegic to get to the speed skater so they could carry her off.
They chanted her name. They celebrated her. After all, she DID overcome the incredible adversity of “having to skate with white teammates”.
Now the allegory is over. And I ask you – is THIS the society we want to live in? because it’s the society that we ARE living in, when the efforts of the truly handicapped are minimized, and the “efforts to overcome having white teammates” is celebrated as an equal accomplishment.
white liberal watch wrote:
weird weird weird wrote:
White guilt prevents many whites from being honest and saying the commercial is stupid.
They are as bad as trump cult members not being able to say trump lost.
What's weird weird weird is how the most popualr president ever, became the most unpopular in under a year. Weird weird weird.
Also, lol...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdc-q3biLm8
Imagine not knowing the difference between populous and popular. Pretty embarrassing.
jimhhhh wrote:
Also at the media session was a speed skater. She chimed in, “yeah. I know EXACTLY what you’re talking about. I have that SAME tenacity and gritty determination that YOU have. I’ve had to overcome just as much as you have”.
You win the award for worst analogy of the day. Congratulations.
jimhhhh wrote:
Allow me an allegory.
There once was an athlete who broke his neck. He was at the top of his game. But due to circumstance, all of it was taken away. He went from elite athlete to quadriplegic. Overnight. He spent 6 months in the hospital. Of those months, he was completely paralyzed for 3 of them. Unable to move a single muscle.
Due to grit and determination, after 3 months of paralysis, the athlete could move his right wrist. Nothing major. Just a twitch. But it was SOMETHING. He celebrated that accomplishment, and it encouraged him to continue TRYING.
After 3 more grueling months in the hospital, he eventually got to the point where he could WALK. Again, nothing major. He still needed a walker to lean on because his muscles had atrophied.
While in the hospital, the athlete’s wife left him. Can’t blame her, right? The athlete was paralyzed, so how COULD he satisfy her? His friends left him too. Not at first. But after a month or two of visits, the friends couldn’t find the time to visit him anymore. To lift his spirits. Can’t blame the though. They wanted to do “young people things”. And hanging around a cripple who can’t even move, hanging around a hospital bed wasn’t their thing.
Fast forward 5 years. Five long….GRUELING years. During which time that former athlete went through daily (and painful) physical treatment. Longing for the day he could get back to normal. His wife, nor his friends returned to him during this time. They had all moved on with their lives. The former athlete too.
As a result of this TIRELESS effort, over several years, the former athlete became good again at his sport. A shadow of his former greatness, but still good enough for the Olympics. His friends wanted to return. But the athlete held them at arms length - “where were they when I needed them? And NOW they want to be my friend again? AFTER I make the Olympics?”, he reasoned.
At the Olympics, his tale of determination and tenacity was featured. How could it NOT be. There was even a media session where his story was told.
Also at the media session was a speed skater. She chimed in, “yeah. I know EXACTLY what you’re talking about. I have that SAME tenacity and gritty determination that YOU have. I’ve had to overcome just as much as you have”.
Intrigued, the media inquires about HER heroic story.
The speed skater responds: “I’m African American. And I’m surrounded by people who AREN’T”
The audience ERUPTS. But not how you might expect. They erupt……….IN CHEERS. The crowd rushes the stage to carry off their hero on their shoulders, chanting her name the whole time. They trampled the former paraplegic to get to the speed skater so they could carry her off.
They chanted her name. They celebrated her. After all, she DID overcome the incredible adversity of “having to skate with white teammates”.
Now the allegory is over. And I ask you – is THIS the society we want to live in? because it’s the society that we ARE living in, when the efforts of the truly handicapped are minimized, and the “efforts to overcome having white teammates” is celebrated as an equal accomplishment.
setting aside that you don't know what an allegory is.
Again, why. WHY must we are you making up a little weird story that is all tropes about the "heroic" overcoming of circumstances for the disabled person....at the cost no less of someone else.
FFS.
hey "befitters", it was actually a spot-on analogy. perhaps you (and society) are just too racist to admit it. Reverse racism is STILL racism.
and when the efforts of the TRULY heroic are denigrated and treated the same as "having to put up with having white teammates", we as a society are failing.
jimhhhh wrote:
hey "befitters", it was actually a spot-on analogy.
It was nowhere close to spot-on. You made ridiculous inferences. Be grateful that you won something.
hey "hmmm" isnt that what YOU'RE doing? when you compare "being african american" to overcoming the same obstacles as someone who lost their leg? or who overcame cancer to compete in the olympics? aren't YOU the one who is making statements "at the cost of someone else"?
oh, and "hmmmmm" - here's the definition of allegory. seems to ME that YOU are the one who doesn't know the meaning of it.
noun: allegory; plural noun: allegories
a story, poem, or picture that can be interpreted to reveal a hidden meaning, typically a moral or political one.
and "befitters" perhaps you should look up the meaning of the word "inference" before you use it.
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Cash or Credit wrote:
Woke Visa commercial tried to be “inclusive” by sharing the stories of people who have gone through adversity to get to the Olympics. One subject went through 12 rounds of Chemo, another is an amputee who started snowboarding with a prosthetic leg, and the other suffered through….being black.
The girl says “I’m African American and I’m surrounded by people who aren’t”. Is being black a disability now? In fact, is this woman a racist for objecting to the fact that others around her have different skin colors from her own? Why does Visa have to tell people that being black is a massive negative obstacle that one has to overcome? Stupid attempt at tying race into this commercial about people who have struggled to overcome massive physical obstacles to achieve the Olympic dream.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gTxpiFYKqYgTelling black people they are victims with no hope for a better future is a foundational principle of the Democratic party. They've been at it for so long that Democrat politicians like Joe Biden openly say that if you don't agree you're a victim and buy into the nonsense than "you ain't black". If you think for yourself you're a "race traitor" or an "Uncle Tom".
Democrats are literally worse for African-Americans than slavery was.
^^^^
Some racists are just nuts. They don’t just grieve the loss of their white privilege, they get angry about it and lash out like crazy men, and hope that gaslighting normal people will work.
jimhhhh wrote:
hey "hmmm" isnt that what YOU'RE doing? when you compare "being african american" to overcoming the same obstacles as someone who lost their leg? or who overcame cancer to compete in the olympics? aren't YOU the one who is making statements "at the cost of someone else"?
1) there is no hidden meaning to be found in your silly story , ergo it is not an allegory and that's why I said it wasn't in the first place. As someone else pointed out it's ridiculous.
2) If you go back and read my very first post, I specifically said "Having cancer and being black are not the same" so--I didn't and am not comparing the experiences.
3) Maybe sit down and take a break. You seem inflamed or something.
jimhhhh wrote:
and "befitters" perhaps you should look up the meaning of the word "inference" before you use it.
You inferred that they were equating the "struggles" of all in the commercial as being equal in your award winning "allegory". I'm not surprised that I had to walk you through that, and you probably still think that it's reasonable.
Why does Visa need to advertise in the first place? Who chooses a credit card that way, rather than an ad from a specific bank?
A bank offers me a card with good terms, I don't care if it's Visa or Mastercard
spotter of grievers wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Telling black people they are victims with no hope for a better future is a foundational principle of the Democratic party. They've been at it for so long that Democrat politicians like Joe Biden openly say that if you don't agree you're a victim and buy into the nonsense than "you ain't black". If you think for yourself you're a "race traitor" or an "Uncle Tom".
Democrats are literally worse for African-Americans than slavery was.
^^^^
Some racists are just nuts. They don’t just grieve the loss of their white privilege, they get angry about it and lash out like crazy men, and hope that gaslighting normal people will work.
If you think everyone more informed than you is a racist that would mean there's like 7 billion racists running around.
"Privilege" is just a buzzword for imbeciles.
surveysays wrote:
white liberal watch wrote:
What's weird weird weird is how the most popualr president ever, became the most unpopular in under a year. Weird weird weird.
Also, lol...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdc-q3biLm8Imagine not knowing the difference between populous and popular. Pretty embarrassing.
Pretty embarrassing way to rationalize the fraud that is currently president. But, white liberals will white liberal. Pretty embarrassing.