Ollie Hoare to Josh Kerr "We have to race each other or we'll get soft running against the Americans"

okayy wrote:

I love the jealousy of America. Best country in the world and it’s not even close.

Yeah, overall America is arguably the best. But in some areas, pretty much a bunch of wankers. Like distance running, for example. Kerr busted your chops.

And light beer, ffs. American men drink like girls.

And this whole Woke thing you people are doing. The rest of the world thinks you people are bananas.

And electing presidents. Trump? Come one, man, that was like a comic book parody gone wrong, no? George Bush Jr.? You elected a guy who can't form sentences in his native language.

I mean, you definitely win the No. 1 sport in overall, but there's a lot of areas where you embarrass yourselves. Just read today's news headlines and you'll be embarrassed.

Plastic Yanks wrote:

What cracks me up, is these guys are all about pride for their countries of birth, when they are basically American. They have spent both gone through the NCAA system, currently have AMERICAN coaches and live in the USA. How many times in the last three years have they worn a Scottish /English & New Zealand vest and how much time have they spent in Scotland and N.Z. respectively?

It's like Nick Willis continuing to represent N.Z. after living in Michigan for 20 f'ing years. I've been in New Zealand more than him the last 5 years.

Scotland basically only compete as a country in athletics once every four years at the Commonwealth Games so that's out. Kerr has represented Britain at the last two global champs. Hoare has never, and will never wear the NZ vest, I'll leave you to figure out why

Wise Old Man wrote:

Bashy wrote:

Americans are delicate people. The people of perpetual outrage. They will overreact to this well-placed slam by Kerr (Scottish).

Stupid AF. There not tougher than the Americans, just more talented and that’s what matters. Nobody’s tougher than Mantz, he just happens to be slow on the track.

Yeah they are.

You are precious.

Look at the posts on this site. You are all so concerned with 'special' races, high school girls, and whether its should be strides or hill sprints.

And excuses like "They are wildly more talented than us"

NZ and Scotland each have a pop of 5 million.

Tennessee alone is 7 million.

Kerr is right. They're much tougher racers.

There is plenty of talent over here. You are just too precious of your reputation to race.

Except for Athing Mu.

She doesn't care what you think of her, as long as her situation is getting better.

Well Ollie is Australian, so he'd need something to change dramatically to wear a NZ T

Bashy wrote:

okayy wrote:

I love the jealousy of America. Best country in the world and it’s not even close.

Yeah, overall America is arguably the best. But in some areas, pretty much a bunch of wankers. Like distance running, for example. Kerr busted your chops.

And light beer, ffs. American men drink like girls.

And this whole Woke thing you people are doing. The rest of the world thinks you people are bananas.

And electing presidents. Trump? Come one, man, that was like a comic book parody gone wrong, no? George Bush Jr.? You elected a guy who can't form sentences in his native language.

I mean, you definitely win the No. 1 sport in overall, but there's a lot of areas where you embarrass yourselves. Just read today's news headlines and you'll be embarrassed.

One bronze medal. Let me know when Scotland/UK/AUS replicate the success that USA has had at 1500m the last 15 years.

Sorry, Typo, meant Oz with Hoare.

But you get my point. They do all of their training, coaching, schooling here in the USA. Should they not have to spend a certain amount of time in their native country each year to represent?

Right you are about His Lardship Trump!! But Iyou need to catch up about beer! Craft beers and makers/saloons have cropped up in this country like crazy over the past decade. IPA beers, stouts, porters, gd mead! I wouldn't claim to know for sure but I think it's the sorts of people who drink the Lite beers that supported the fat orange gifted.

We had to sneak around Sydney in the dead of night just to buy "sly grog" from cabbies.

Jamesengle6 wrote:

Right you are about His Lardship Trump!! But Iyou need to catch up about beer! Craft beers and makers/saloons have cropped up in this country like crazy over the past decade. IPA beers, stouts, porters, gd mead! I wouldn't claim to know for sure but I think it's the sorts of people who drink the Lite beers that supported the fat orange gifted.

We had to sneak around Sydney in the dead of night just to buy "sly grog" from cabbies.

"Grifter"--not "gifted!!" Grrrr.

Plastic Yanks wrote:

Sorry, Typo, meant Oz with Hoare.

But you get my point. They do all of their training, coaching, schooling here in the USA. Should they not have to spend a certain amount of time in their native country each year to represent?

They do jhave to appear at the trials most of the time.

And the season is in the middle of schooling.

When they are out of school you'll see them go back and forth. Bolt used to spend off season in OZ due to the weather.

This covid thing has made it impossible to travel back and forth the last couple of years.

snoresvilles wrote:

Bashy wrote:

Yeah, overall America is arguably the best. But in some areas, pretty much a bunch of wankers. Like distance running, for example. Kerr busted your chops.

And light beer, ffs. American men drink like girls.

And this whole Woke thing you people are doing. The rest of the world thinks you people are bananas.

And electing presidents. Trump? Come one, man, that was like a comic book parody gone wrong, no? George Bush Jr.? You elected a guy who can't form sentences in his native language.

I mean, you definitely win the No. 1 sport in overall, but there's a lot of areas where you embarrass yourselves. Just read today's news headlines and you'll be embarrassed.

One bronze medal. Let me know when Scotland/UK/AUS replicate the success that USA has had at 1500m the last 15 years.

The US has had, what, two Olympic medals since Jim Ryun was running? And one of those was in the flukiest 1500 in history when running an elite women's time was good enough for gold. Come back when you have talent like Coe, Cram, Ovett, and Elliott. You'll also note that the UK had three men in the last Olympic final and Aus had two. The US had one. Hocker is a big talent, but I wouldn't put a lot of money on any other American men making the World Champs final this year.

corraleyejoe wrote:

Wise Old Man wrote:

Stupid AF. There not tougher than the Americans, just more talented and that’s what matters. Nobody’s tougher than Mantz, he just happens to be slow on the track.

Yeah they are.

You are precious.

Look at the posts on this site. You are all so concerned with 'special' races, high school girls, and whether its should be strides or hill sprints.

And excuses like "They are wildly more talented than us"

NZ and Scotland each have a pop of 5 million.

Tennessee alone is 7 million.

Kerr is right. They're much tougher racers.

There is plenty of talent over here. You are just too precious of your reputation to race.

Except for Athing Mu.

She doesn't care what you think of her, as long as her situation is getting better.

What’s your point? You talking about tough as in distance running or tough in athletics, or something else?

Hoare and Kerr are more talented than any American 1500 runner, save maybe Hocker. That’s why they ran at the front. Yeah, there so especially tough because they grew up elsewhere, yet they both elected to be coached by “soft” American coaches.

If you’re talking about toughness in athletes in general, I suggest you tune in later today and watch Nick Bosa wreck the Rams.

so many princesses in this thread.

Kerr has always talked himself up. he’s good for the sport.

snoresvilles wrote:

Let me know when they replicate American success in championships.

Let me know when Australia can replicate a population of 330 million. For a country of that size, only winning 39 golds at the Tokyo Olympics in kind of sad. Thats one gold medal per 8,461,538 people. Compare that to Australia's one gold medal per 1,511,764 people, I think they have extremely outperformed American success in championships.

#goodforthesport

Hoare

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Concupiscurd wrote:

Great quote from Kerr about 40 seconds in --

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQuIGLeRyrk

One word so many people are overlooking here is "context". I'm sure Ollie wasn't serious when he said that about American athletes to Beamish. It would have just been a bit of light hearted banter before a big race to get laugh and take the edge off their nerves. I know Beamish has been incredibly thankful for the opportunity to get a track a scholarship

to the U.S as it has opened up many doors for him which he wouldn't have been able to get had he stayed in New Zealand.

Sorry meant to say had he stayed in Australia.

Plastic Yanks wrote:

Sorry, Typo, meant Oz with Hoare.

But you get my point. They do all of their training, coaching, schooling here in the USA. Should they not have to spend a certain amount of time in their native country each year to represent?

No. NBA players make money here then represent their countries in the Olympics or FIBA. You should train where you feel you'll become the best athlete.

Kobbs Hessler wrote:

Australians have proven to be the biggest cowards on planet earth these last two years.

This. They have some talented runners for sure. Of course they came to the US for school and still train here. Because it’s pretty a crime to be outside in Australia.