Patrick Mahomes HR and Calories Burned vs Bills - Does this sound right?

No Chance it's true wrote:

He's not built at all like his dad wrote:

I am surprised Patrick Mahomes is able to run around as he does on a football field. He is not fast and Patrick Mahomes is fat as was Dan Fouts. My guess, defenses do not want to get beat deep by T. Hill so there are running lanes for Patrick Mahomes. A 4.8 guy running around as if he's a 4.2 guy like Mike Vick in his prime. His father was a fit and lean 6'1" 175 lbs. pitcher for Minnesota Twins.

You do realize that a "4.8" guy is faster than pretty much every defensive lineman in the NFL right?

6'3 230 isn't "fat" he's a football player not a distance runner.

Patrick Mahomes, at one day years ago may have been 230 pounds. I doubt Patrick Mahomes is actually 6'3". I believe he is a bit shorter. Look at images of Jim Brown in his prime. Look at Jim Brown in film, Dirty Dozen. Brown planned on returning to Cleveland Browns later that summer. Browns played hard ball and fined Jim Brown for missed days so Jim Brown quit football. Jim Brown was a 6'2" 230 lbs. fullback. Patrick Mahomes has a gut hanging over his belt as did Dan Fouts. I wasn't comparing Patrick Mahomes to Marathoners, I am comparing Patrick Mahomes to football players. His weight is his business and Kansas City Chief's business. I was making the point, I cannot believe guys on defense allow fat Mahomes to run around as if Mahomes is Mike Vick in Vick's prime.

Going from 275 to 261 is a loss of about 5% of body mass. Seems in the right ballpark.

Have you ever watched a football game?

Oh how I love hearing this one over and over. Reminds me of the saying "think outside the box", except these jokers never will and their box is their tiny skull.

If this were true than I guess that puts Ben rothelisburger in the hobby jogger category. Guys who can run lots of marathons but still somehow manage to end up fat.

I watch a lot of golf and they show a lot of the guys HR with the Whoop app. You'll see like Rory's Mcllroy spike to 150 when he makes a clutch putt or whatever. Likely fake to make things seem more dramatic.

WDC Runner wrote:

“Over the 28 minutes of real-time spanning the frantic end of regulation and OT, his average heart rate was nearly 160 bpm.”

This is hard to believe. Why would his HR remain elevated between plays, during the break between regulation and OT, and when he's sitting on the bench? If his HR is even in the low hundreds while he's not actively playing, it would be essentially impossible for his HR to be high enough during the plays to pull the average up to 160.

Mahomes threw 44 passes. Most passes, 5 step dropback in the pocket. About a 1/3 of passes, Mahomes ran around. When he ran around, about 30 yards. Mahomes burned over 2000 calories while sprinting 15 x 30 yards? A poster brought up hockey. Except for goalie, hockey is a series of 600m runs. Hockey is close to all out for (90 to 105) seconds. I saw hockey players in April after hockey season, running sub-95 600m in high school P.E. class. Chubby football players are not running sub-95 600m. If Mahomes is burning 2000 plus calories playing football, he needs to cut back on beer, cake and pie. If Mahomes is this fat at 26, how fat will he be in 5 years?

Pat Mahomes is not fat, he wears a “flack” jacket during games which makes him look fat. He takes tiny steps when he runs and he would smoke 90 percent of the LRC on a 5k without super shoes.

Don Juan wrote:

Pat Mahomes is not fat, he wears a “flack” jacket during games which makes him look fat. He takes tiny steps when he runs and he would smoke 90 percent of the LRC on a 5k without super shoes.

He's also the weakest guy on the team and he could still rag doll 99.999% of the Let's Run community.

You can't be skinny in the NFL at any position that sees contact. If you're skinny you're always be injured.

I'm a Mahomes fan. I think he's great. His HR and calories burned are not really relevant for evaluating his performance. Or more to the point, if it turned out he actually burned 100 calories per hour or 1000 per hour, it wouldn't really affect how football fans view him. They just care about him making good football plays.

So when I say I'm skeptical of the 2300+ calories and the HR, it's not in any way a knock on Mahomes or football players in general. I know they are fantastic athletes. It just seems unlikely to me that he would put up calorie/HR numbers that are fairly similar to running a 4-hr marathon. Yes, I get the HR rises when you are nervous, etc, but I'd be surprised if it was that much. I've personally never noticed feeling calorically depleted after just being nervous.

But if he is burning that many calories, surely he would need a fairly well-planned fuel replacement strategy for games to avoid bonking? Maybe he does - maybe football players in general do - but I never really hear about that side of things. I just see them drinking Gatorade. You'd think that if they were burning that many calories, the sidelines would be littered with empty Gu packets.

I really just think its fake/exaggerated for publicity. It's like men's health interviewing guys that are obviously on roids talking about CBR because they're celebrities

I don't believe that hockey players were running sub 1:35 600m in high school p.e. class.

carmine9 wrote:

[quote]Poingo Laxx wrote:

No way on the 2,367 calories. No way at all.

Agree.

You would have to run over 20 miles to burn that many calories.

No way he could burn that many calories in a sixty minute game, with much of that time spent doing little physical work.

Maybe 1,000.

Disagree.

Not saying that the data is accurate ( I have no way of knowing). But it does seem plausible.

I can easily brisk walk 17 miles in 4 hours. For a 180 pound male, a reasonable estimate is 100 kCal/mile or 1,700 in those 4 hours. For a 230 pound male (Mahomes) that would likely be comfortably over 2,000 kCal in four hours of brisk walking.

A football game can easily result in one burning more calories than walking. So, 2367 kCal is not at all out of the question.

1101 wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

[quote]Poingo Laxx wrote:

No way on the 2,367 calories. No way at all.

Agree.

You would have to run over 20 miles to burn that many calories.

No way he could burn that many calories in a sixty minute game, with much of that time spent doing little physical work.

Maybe 1,000.

Disagree.

Not saying that the data is accurate ( I have no way of knowing). But it does seem plausible.

I can easily brisk walk 17 miles in 4 hours. For a 180 pound male, a reasonable estimate is 100 kCal/mile or 1,700 in those 4 hours. For a 230 pound male (Mahomes) that would likely be comfortably over 2,000 kCal in four hours of brisk walking.

A football game can easily result in one burning more calories than walking. So, 2367 kCal is not at all out of the question.

You're forgetting the part where he's basically motionless for 2 of those 4 hours...

I find it very difficult to believe. He'll burn more calories because he ways well over 200lbs.

And his last game was in the cold. Those two factors will play.

But how many snaps is he on the field for? 60? something like that? each play is about 5 seconds.

I recognize the mental work he has to do on the sidelines and throwing the ball to stay warmed up.

I think anything over 400 calories/hour is greatly exaggerated. No way I'm buying this claim.

He might burn 1500 calories or so during the entire game and that sounds like a stretch.

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mathematics wrote:

WTF is this nonsense? Firstly, the spectrum of HR varies wildly. Triathlete Lionel Sanders has a threshold around 140, plenty of people have a threshold as high as 180+. I know for certain that I don't lose motor function at threshold pace, and you can prove it by looking at how quickly triathletes blast through T2 in an sprint race. Losing control of your bladder and bowels above 170? Must have forgot to inform all the steeplechase and 5k guys.

Why did you think they ran them through a water jump each lap? Cover up the evidence. Doesn't make a lot of sense otherwise does it?