older runner wrote:
uk is 90% vaccinated for 65+. we are not close.
The vaccination rate among people age 65+ in the US is 90.2% (2+ doses) and 95% (one dose).
older runner wrote:
uk is 90% vaccinated for 65+. we are not close.
The vaccination rate among people age 65+ in the US is 90.2% (2+ doses) and 95% (one dose).
Hardloper wrote:
I am Sam wrote:
It's actually more virulent , boofhead...
Less virulent, but more transmissible.
Correct.
What do you mean by "far less virulent"?
If you catch Omicron, your risk of severe illness is seemingly about 1/2 of what it would be with Delta. On the other hand, Omicron is at least 2.5 times as contagious as Delta, so w.r.t. Delta your probability to become seriously ill with Omicron is about 0.5 x 2.5 = 1.25. Not lower, but higher than with Delta.
This is of course only a rough estimate, but it still demonstrates that it is not yet time to relax.
Masks should be optional and if people want to choose to "protect" themselves they can at their discretion. Same with anything regarding covid safety. Should be up to the individual but the institutional control is due to agendas being served. Wake up people. Why are we listening to the institution full of proven selfish liars/groomers/manipulators? They prey on gullibility of human nature.
carmine9 wrote:
Puget Sound Runner wrote:
I'll admit I have actually made a bit of an attempt to try and get Omicron over the past three weeks. I'm vaxxed and boosted, and I have to travel a bunch in the next month, so I'd rather not have those plans botched by a bout with Omicron.
That being said, 2300 people died of COVID yesterday, so clearly there are still a huge number of conspiracy theorists out there who aren't protected. Not my problem, but it would be nice if those people took steps to help us alleviate the crisis. People aren't dying of COVID anymore, they're dying because they didn't protect themselves against COVID.
No. They are dying of the other 4 comorbidities 75% of them have
Then explain all the excess deaths. If these people were just dying of things that would have killed them anyway.....we wouldn't be seeing this massive spike in excess deaths since March 2020.
2:18 at the casino (SLU grad) wrote:
You are the joke. If everyone got vaccinated, everyone wore a N95 mask and quit gathering in large crowds I think we would be closer to the end of the pandemic than in the middle of one. This from a long time registered Republican.
+1 - especially the "you are a fool".
The OP clearly does not understand how infectious diseases work and does not understand the most basic scientific principles. But worse, they think they do.
This is the real problem - the hard of thinking who refuse to follow the experts advice before banging on about their rights. This is why there is still such a big problem around the world, a problem that will remain why idiots spout rubbish like the OP.
My advice to the OP would simple: do what the grown-ups say and this will all go away.
Problem is more covid means more likely for it to mutate. Then we get covid megatron
2:18 at the casino (SLU grad) wrote:
You are the joke. If everyone got vaccinated, everyone wore a N95 mask and quit gathering in large crowds I think we would be closer to the end of the pandemic than in the middle of one. This from a long time registered Republican.
Yep, just have to work as a team and love our neighbors and do what we’re told and we’ll all get through this together comrade.
real data wrote:
carmine9 wrote:
No. They are dying of the other 4 comorbidities 75% of them have
Then explain all the excess deaths. If these people were just dying of things that would have killed them anyway.....we wouldn't be seeing this massive spike in excess deaths since March 2020.
Any excess deaths for the past few months is based on guesses, methodologies, assumptions.
Too soon for real data.
If there has been a "massive spike" in excess deaths, there are many possible reasons for that. Vaccine deaths is one. Murder and fatal car wrecks are up. As is suicide and overdoses. All things related to the pressure the establishment is putting on people to take the jab.
Four years of "Trump is a dictator" and the Supreme Court just had to stop Biden from being one.
datsun wrote:
Problem is more covid means more likely for it to mutate. Then we get covid megatron
Doesn't work like that.
If we can get nearly everyone to get omicron in two months, then all get natural immunity for at least several months and it's over
Precious Roy wrote:
The best way to keep that from happening is to minimize transmission. N95s are the best protection we have to stop transmission. It would be stupid to not have people wearing N95s when indoors in public settings at this point. It would get transmission to come down, sparing the healthcare system, and keep new variants from emerging. There should be an omicron specific booster available this spring and other promising vaccines and therapeutics are in the pipeline. Now is probably the most important time in the entire pandemic to hunker down and do everything possible to limit transmission.
So what you seem to be saying is that everyone needs to wear an N95 in public for the rest of our lives.
That...is...absolutely insane.
How much herd immunity is there to HIV, another well known retrovirus?
I wouldn’t be so confident in your assertion.