At slower speeds the endorphin pros feel much much better than the nexties. They also are much more stable esp on downhills. Fit more like a trainer . For a 4 hour person I would say that’s by far the best shoe. They on sale plus a 50$ gift card on RW
Everyone seems to be supportive, so I’ll say no, just to be contrarian
I thought the Pegasus Turbo 2 was discontinued? I ask bc they are (were) my absolute favorite training shoe and I’m super disappointed they’re gone.
Wear whatever shoes will help you do your best, especially if you’re running for a qualifying time. Nike super shoes make a huge difference for me (faster running time and faster recovery time).
I'd be careful. The Nike Vaporfly Next % is a very unstable shoe. I've heard countless stories of veteran marathon runners getting injured by running marathons in them. If it's your first one, you have no idea how your body will react to the marathon distance and I think it's safer to wear the shoe you train in for your long runs. "Nothing new on race day" -- and that doesn't mean go and train in Vaporflys because that is also a recipe for injury. If you really want a carbon fiber plate shoe, the New Balance Fuel Cell Elite is a little more stable.
I say no. Although I’ve only tried the Vaporfly I’d think you need something more stable at slower paces. The zoom Fly may fit the bill.
arunnerinwa wrote:
Master's female, trying to break 4 hours for a BQ. It's my first marathon. I'm not sure I'll run another, and I would like this one to be as fast as it can be. (CIM) I'm following Pfitzinger's 12 week / 55 mi program. (I've been running 25+ years if that matters, just always stuck to shorter stuff.)
I normally train in Nike Pegasus Turbo 2s. I LOVE them.
I'm wondering if I should buy Vaporflies for the race. 4% of 4 hours is nearly 10 minutes. That's huge. I can afford it. But I feel stupid wearing them because I am so slow.
Thoughts?
You should wear the shoes with the Letsrun tee on race day. Let 'em know which set you rep!!
BQ wrote:
I thought the Pegasus Turbo 2 was discontinued? I ask bc they are (were) my absolute favorite training shoe and I’m super disappointed they’re gone....
I've picked up two pair (new, as far as I can tell) on eBay in the last few months.
Should I wear super shoes for my marathon even though I'll run 4 hours?
Reply: If you wear them, you will run less than 4 hours.
Older male marathoner here, tried vaporflys on a few of my training runs (my threshold pace is right around 7 min) and I really didn't like them. I felt like the shoe was in control of me.
I wear the Hoka Carbon X for my quicker paced runs. I realize they aren't considered in the same league as Alpha for Vaporflys but the Carbon's just feel like a better shoe for me.
dailydoubleFor600 wrote:
At slower speeds the endorphin pros feel much much better than the nexties. They also are much more stable esp on downhills. Fit more like a trainer . For a 4 hour person I would say that’s by far the best shoe. They on sale plus a 50$ gift card on RW
Okay, I just copped that deal.
They are - so sad! Like the other poster, I've been stocking up off eBay. I don't think there's really another shoe on the market quite like them.
You can wear whatever you want, its a free country last time I checked. You may as well wear kung-fu shoes, barefoot, whatever suits your needs. it's up to you. Good luck!!!
Not sure how so many people find VFs unstable. Maybe if you pronate or have really bad form. I've never found them different to any other shoe. The Alphafly is different but even that is fine if you're running on a decent road.
If you can afford them, buy a supershoe. If nothing else, they save your legs a ton of beating
High hopes wrote:
Not sure how so many people find VFs unstable. Maybe if you pronate or have really bad form. I've never found them different to any other shoe. The Alphafly is different but even that is fine if you're running on a decent road.
If you can afford them, buy a supershoe. If nothing else, they save your legs a ton of beating
The 4% Flyknit version more so.
Pros are solid but my quads were trashed by 18 in them in the marathon. Seemed more a hm shoe.
Assuming you believe it will make you faster, yes. I don't see any reason why your time being 4 hours vs. 2:30 means you can't wear super shoes.
High hopes wrote:
Not sure how so many people find VFs unstable. Maybe if you pronate or have really bad form. I've never found them different to any other shoe. The Alphafly is different but even that is fine if you're running on a decent road.
If you can afford them, buy a supershoe. If nothing else, they save your legs a ton of beating
Run behind someone wearing them. The ankles always roll in on the VF and Next cause of the foam. But they are def the fastest shoe
If you do use Vaporflies, make sure you start using them well BEFORE your race to make sure you are comfortable running in them. Don't try something new on race day.
runrincerepeat wrote:
High hopes wrote:
Not sure how so many people find VFs unstable. Maybe if you pronate or have really bad form. I've never found them different to any other shoe. The Alphafly is different but even that is fine if you're running on a decent road.
If you can afford them, buy a supershoe. If nothing else, they save your legs a ton of beating
Run behind someone wearing them. The ankles always roll in on the VF and Next cause of the foam. But they are def the fastest shoe
I've seen that only once, on someone who was a big overpronater. That was the 4% as well. The Next% are firmer
In my opinion, no. I almost always do my long runs at 8 minute miles. I wore the next % on one of those long slow runs and they felt awful, in fact they felt uncomfortable. However, at 6 minute miles they feel good. A 4 hour marathon is 10 minute miles? I'm not even sure. You would be much better off wearing something like the asics novablast or a hoka shoe. I am being serious.