I don’t think she should give up but I’ve noticed in some of her photos she does look a bit gaunt. She also looks like she is at race weight all the time. Maybe try to put on a few pounds during her training. I really hope she does not have an eating disorder. That would certainly reck havoc with her racing and training. You don’t have to be rail thin to have an eating disorder. Bulimia is equally as dangerous as Anorexia.
Ite ad Joseph wrote:
The worst part of this story is that Pete Julian was surprised, or baffled, by her results in her last race. He said that the results were not indicative of what here workouts were showing. Pete seems to be part of the problem.
Actually Pete Julian was refreshingly honest about her terrible results in that last interview. Until recently she had been "coached" by Paula Radcliffe for the last two years which obviously didn't work.
In New Haven she ran a 1:18 half marathon equivalent. Today she ran 2:41 with a 1:17 first half. So while that is still terrible Pete was probably right that the New Haven result didn't reflect her fitness.
calbuffalo wrote:
Tough to read many of these comments. Have known Jordan since she was 6th or 7th grade. She's a wonderful person. Please keep in mind she's human. Great job to all Americans who ran tough the last two days at 26.2.
Tough as it may seem Jordan is fading into the abyss of regularity. If she didnt have it together by this morning she needs to be prepping for the next phase of her life. The slumber parties with female youth just like her in a cost efficient Idaho are a tremendous plan. She can be the boom the town needs.
pacers' delight wrote:
RunFarRunFast123 wrote:
I don’t think that she should hang it up. She’s a very talented runner that still has a bright future.
Personally, I think she’s over tired and needs to take some down time to reset. At her level, doing that is very difficult. I think finding another hobby for several months ( surfing, OCR, functional fitness, mountain biking) then when she’s ready slowly easing back into the running scene with fun races will allow her to be successful again. But what do I know LOL!?
If she takes months off, what will she post about? Posting her little running and weight lifting sessions is a huge part of her life and identity. With so much time on her hands, are you suggesting that she get a job and put to use that fine education she received at the UofO?
Ummm....ever heard of barber's college?
broken arrow wrote:
calbuffalo wrote:
Tough to read many of these comments. Have known Jordan since she was 6th or 7th grade. She's a wonderful person. Please keep in mind she's human. Great job to all Americans who ran tough the last two days at 26.2.
Same here, I have known her since her first Junior Olympics XC race, I really wish she can get whatever is wrong sorted out. It is really frustrating to watch her compete like this, I wish her the best.
Yes, there are some very bad comments on here, but the overwhelming sentiments expressed are not malicious. There is an equal mixture of concern, disappointment and a hefty helping of harsh reality. Performing poorly for an extended stretch does not diminish her past accomplishments. This is not what this thread is about. Please don’t make it a referendum on character or personality.
We rip on the guys relentlessly. But the women should be off-limits? Okay, then.
If her training has gone well. And she's been hitting her marathon paces during training. I would think her taper isn't correct. They will have to figure out a taper that let's her race well. Maybe she can handle a little more mileage than someone else during taper and still do well. Either way they need to dial in a taper that works for her. If that's the problem.
oaivne wrote:
It is absolutely time for Jordan to hang it up. Nike needs to cut her loose. Thinking about all the other athletes who's contracts they have reduced or suspended over the years for much less.
Hasay is not “another athlete”. She is one of very few runners who actually gives a ROI despite not performing well.
Nike understand this, letsrun visitors do not.
the macdaddy og yo wrote:
oaivne wrote:
It is absolutely time for Jordan to hang it up. Nike needs to cut her loose. Thinking about all the other athletes who's contracts they have reduced or suspended over the years for much less.
Hasay is not “another athlete”. She is one of very few runners who actually gives a ROI despite not performing well.
Nike understand this, letsrun visitors do not.
Nike has been firing BTC runners and OTC runners. You are correct, NKE understands ROI.
Precious Roy wrote:
It is getting hard to watch how far Hasay has fallen. There has to be more to the story and something that has not been diagnosed, whether physical or mental. NOP haters will say that this is what happens when a NOP athlete no longer gets to take the secret sauce. But if that were the case, Rupp would have fallen apart. He is years older and has a lot more competitive miles on his legs. Yet, Rupp is doing just fine and had a solid race, if not one of the best marathons of his career, yesterday.
The only comparable example of a top US marathoner completely coming unglued like this is Ryan Hall. Maybe Hasay just went too hard at it and has been damaged beyond repair.
and
Mary Cain
Andrew Wheating
Alan Webb
German Fernandez
Chris Derrick
Lawi Lalang
Diego Estrada
Dathan Ritzenhein
Cheserek (in some ways)
on and on and on....
It happens a lot.
There's an invisible line that once you cross, it seems you are not the same physically or mentally. It's part of what makes great runners special. They have a durability to them.
Des was terrible.
Gwalkerruns wrote:
Des was terrible.
She ran faster than she did when she won it in 2018
I fail to understand the vicious pile on an athlete. Or any person for that matter. Has she done something, wrong? Hurt someone? She has like many, achieved great highs and experienced rough lows. Do you only support someone when they are up? Not referring to the OP but the community on here. Can you imagine how hard it is for someone like her to have these struggles? Is it that hard to be supportive and kind?
canadian wrote:
I fail to understand the vicious pile on an athlete. Or any person for that matter. Has she done something, wrong? Hurt someone? She has like many, achieved great highs and experienced rough lows. Do you only support someone when they are up? Not referring to the OP but the community on here. Can you imagine how hard it is for someone like her to have these struggles? Is it that hard to be supportive and kind?
The average LRC poster is absolute scum
Yet you expect kindness?
I agree with you wholeheartedly--but the audience here is largely a*sholes
Ite ad Joseph wrote:
The worst part of this story is that Pete Julian was surprised, or baffled, by her results in her last race. He said that the results were not indicative of what here workouts were showing. Pete seems to be part of the problem.
I would think she is more of the problem he was a phenomenal coach to Suguru in the half marathon and full but he also seemed like the kind of athlete to buy into the training more….
Even the elites having a window where their genetics just stick it to them and they peak sooner than what the sports world anticipated. She's probably over the hill. Maybe her genetic growth curve rises logarithmically to the peak, and then declines exponentially.
TFFan wrote:
I don't understand how she can be running so poorly. You'd think she could coach herself faster than what she just ran. She was always a standout talent and now just looks weak and wobbly when she runs. I feel for her.
Yeah except there aren't recent LetsRun threads calling some of the still running men on that list to call it quits. This thread is a bit gross. But it is on brand. That's for sure.
She seems like a nice person and probably misses her friend Alexi. I used to be fan but I believe she voted for Biden-Harris.
Ihatejoe wrote:
She seems like a nice person and probably misses her friend Alexi. I used to be fan but I believe she voted for Biden-Harris.
Alexi was smarter than Hasay tho. She has her own movie and journalistic identity.
When the Marriot purchased mass amounts of TVs with bad interface programming, Alexi made out huge when her commercials for her movie went on repeat for hours on end. That's a lot of free publicity.
Alexi also qualified for the Olympics and has been there done that. She was also topless in the movie.
Jordan should try and emulate what Lexi did
I love your sarcasm :)