Where is the love? Alicia Monson runs 14:42.56, #4 all-time in USA. Faster than Flanagan and Huddle.

Peach Pit wrote:

briswiss wrote:

Where is the love? Idk, she got 9th a track race. Not very good. Us women are an absolute joke. Why would I show “love” for a pretty bad performance? Just because US women have always sucked at the event doesn’t make it impressive

14:42 for a 23 year old isn't a "pretty bad performance". It's #4 US all time and she's probably a bit past her peak. Plus, given some slightly better splits she probably would've been in the 14:30s.

You wouldn't say a 3:39 1500 for an 18 year old is a pretty bad performance because the world record is 13 seconds off, or that an 18 year old just ran a 3:34, you'd say it's a great performance given the circumstances.

It is 36 seconds off the world record. Would you say that a guy running 13:13 is a great performance or just a very good performance?

bloviating wrote:

Doped Up Real Estate Broker wrote:

And I nearly forgot, Rojo's obsession with who has testicles on the women's circuit. For a few moments, I thought that I had accidently found a tranny porn fan site.

👆🏼this +1. That is what seemed to take up the reactions from the Brussels meet.

+1000

#1- it's the website's job to get people excited about the sport. Harping on things that don't resonate with only men over 40 is something to take another look at.

#2- ya'll get super excited about white runners, so much so that you have to find ways to distinguish (African born, DSD, intersex) non-white athletes instead of just focusing on achievement in sport.

#3- when it comes to doping there's no love lost for non-white runners but Houlihan isn't being given a fair shake. If you were consistent you would at least note that the AR holder is currently serving a 4 year ban.

#4- get some damn training on subjects you're not trained on. you get too much traffic to just throw out horrible opinions on sensitive topics. you need moderators who know how to moderate. you need founders who know how to shut down bad takes and who don't add fuel to the fire themselves.

She finished 9th. So its kind of like celebrating the mediocrity that prevails in the 5k in the USA. She was almost 7 seconds behind 8th place (Klosterhalfen) and a full 11 seconds behind 7th place (McColgan).

alanson wrote:

She finished 9th. So its kind of like celebrating the mediocrity that prevails in the 5k in the USA. She was almost 7 seconds behind 8th place (Klosterhalfen) and a full 11 seconds behind 7th place (McColgan).

Posted like a skinnyfat manboob with a PR two minutes slower than hers.

meanwhile... wrote:

So what did you think of Alicia Monson's run?

Slammin'.

B Franklin wrote:

Put an asterisk on drug cheat Shelby Houlihan's mark.

Put an asterisk on all of them and a double asterisk on Shelby's.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Hoare second to McSweyne in same Diamond League meet. So, where’s the love for Ritz’s coaching abilities.

Just buy bitcoin already before 100k

Great run! Maybe I missed it but she was well behind the leaders and I don't believe the TV coverage ever bothered to mention her time.

free shipping with purchases wrote:

As you often do with people like Regina Jacobs, you should probably refer to the first person on that list as a convicted doper. You have the athletes in the #1 and #2 positions, one who got busted five months later, and the other who hasn't been the same since her training partner got busted. Then you have Rowbury who was training under a now-banned coach. Puts Monson's run in the correct perspective.

you mean... Reginald Jacobs ??

Ritz is a fine coach. I don't think his ego gets in the way of coaching, which separates him from a lot of ex-athletes. He can probably do most runs, if not workouts too, with his athletes still.

Where is the love for Teahna Daniels 10.83 #13 U.S. women's all-time list. Fast but it does not mean as much when women are consistently running 10.7. We are enamored with standards like a sub-15 (5K) for women, a sub-4 mile for men or sub-11 100m for women.

We are mentally locked into these relics from the 1990s. Obviously 14:42 is quite a bit faster than sub-15 and 10.83 is quite a bit faster than sub-11, but the point is, the world standards have changed. Lots of love and respect for Alicia and Teahna, but the truth is they have simply become solid members of the world class club.

Number 4 all time American is better than 13th. Forget the world, next you will claim an American breaking a national record is meaningless because people in the world are better.