Bower Man wrote:
I would consider Grant "questionable" for Saturday's race. He went into great detail in his recent Half Step podcast about the calf injury he soldiered thru in Tokyo so clarified he won't know until the last minute if the injury has healed enough to compete.
And, so it starts. First Emma and now possibly Grant. I bet a few more will scratch today or tomorrow. Wouldn't it be interesting if Sha'Carrie drops out?
cheeriooo wrote:
JohnnyS wrote:
Absolutely stacked field. Will be great.
Would you all think it's worth a 6-hour drive one way to watch live? And maybe I could only make Saturday's sessions which would be a bummer—to miss Hassan trying for a world record at night with the track lights on. I've never seen any of these people in real life. How much better is a live experience?
I've found for something like tennis in a huge stadium like the US Open finals, I am more comfortable watching it at home after having experienced it once.
If they have a good video board there, it will have all the pluses of home and live viewing. Look into it. check it out.
xczvzxcv wrote:
2 MILE
Selemon BAREGA ETH
Joshua CHEPTEGEI UGA
Paul CHELIMO USA
Grant FISHER USA
William KINCAID USA
Luis GRIJALVA GUT
Jacob KIPLIMO UGA
Berhiu AREGAWI ETH
Joe KLECKER USA
Bethwell BIRGEN KEN
Michael KIBET KEN
Justus SOGET KEN
Nibret MELAK ETH
Marc SCOTT GBR
Mark LOMUKET KEN
Daniel Simiu EBENYO KEN
Damn, what a field. My money is on Barega. If he had run the 5000 m in the Olympics i think he would have medaled for sure.
xczvzxcv wrote:
2 MILE
Selemon BAREGA ETH
Joshua CHEPTEGEI UGA
Paul CHELIMO USA
Grant FISHER USA
William KINCAID USA
Luis GRIJALVA GUT
Jacob KIPLIMO UGA
Berhiu AREGAWI ETH
Joe KLECKER USA
Bethwell BIRGEN KEN
Michael KIBET KEN
Justus SOGET KEN
Nibret MELAK ETH
Marc SCOTT GBR
Mark LOMUKET KEN
Daniel Simiu EBENYO KEN
Just watched a 2016 video of the Woodbridge Cross Country Invitational and Grijalva beats Cooper Teare by a second. Five years later Teare beats Grijalva by a second at NCAA’s and pulls Grijalva to the Olympic 5k standard.
Grijalva applied for and got a travel visa and competed in the Olympics making the 5k final, placing 12th in a PB of 13:10.09.
Now, in two short months he, because he earned it, will be competing against the best in the world in the PRE 2mile.
In America dreams can become reality Now , for his dream to become a USA citizen will become, I hope, a reality soon.
Concupiscurd wrote:
xczvzxcv wrote:
2 MILE
Selemon BAREGA ETH
Joshua CHEPTEGEI UGA
Paul CHELIMO USA
Grant FISHER USA
William KINCAID USA
Luis GRIJALVA GUT
Jacob KIPLIMO UGA
Berhiu AREGAWI ETH
Joe KLECKER USA
Bethwell BIRGEN KEN
Michael KIBET KEN
Justus SOGET KEN
Nibret MELAK ETH
Marc SCOTT GBR
Mark LOMUKET KEN
Daniel Simiu EBENYO KEN
Damn, what a field. My money is on Barega. If he had run the 5000 m in the Olympics i think he would have medaled for sure.
Even Ebenyo is a chance to get amongst the top 5.
michiganrunner55 wrote:
Bruno Engler wrote:
Have you looked at the 16 guys racing in the 2 mile?
Wowza.
WR attempt perhaps?
WR is 7:58 Komen… I doubt that gets broken. If no pacer it will end up being a 8:15 to 8:20 race
Why would there be no pacer?
Update on Grant.
Per his newest Pod released a few hours ago, he's fine, he's running.
And, expecting 60.x/lap pace. Stated he ran sub-60 400s and 2-flat 800s the other day to get ready for a really fast train to latch on to.
Aouita 84 wrote:
High hopes wrote:
The 2 mile is the most pointless event on track. No one gives a damn. Run a 3000 which at least has some global standing. Cheptegei could run a world record in the 2 mile and it would barely cause a ripple in the sport. Running it is a complete waste of the talent by the Pre organisers
You clearly have never been an elite runner, nor do you understand the significance of running the 2-mile. First, the 2-mile is an "old school" distance that connects with American high school runners. It allows them to compare what they run to the world's best runners. Many Prep runners don't run 3000's. Second, elite runners enjoy running the "off-distance" event so as to see how fast someone can run back-to-back miles.
It's primarily a nostalgia event like the mile that the athletes enjoy doing. So just relax and enjoy the show.
Don't be such an ass. The 2 mile only connects with American high schoolers. It's an irrelevance as an event on the global stage. Everywhere else in the world, they run the 3000. The mile has historical significance, the 2 mile means nothing to anyone. The only reason elite athletes run it is for the paycheck. You think Cheptegei is going to run around touting his 2 mile WR if he breaks it? Even Mo Farah never talked about his indoor 2 mile record and it was pretty much the only one he had. I'll watch, and hope to see some quality racing but I'm guessing all of the international guys are just going to phone it in - I bet most of them don't even have a 2 mile PR to begin with
Gidey and Obiri don’t have a PB and Markocv of GB could take a full minute off hers
I do see a bit of charm in her.
However , she needs to soften up on her etiquette. FYI, after Pre the majority of athletes will embark on the European circuit. Did they send any invitations her way?
Bower Man II wrote:
Update on Grant.
Per his newest Pod released a few hours ago, he's fine, he's running.
And, expecting 60.x/lap pace. Stated he ran sub-60 400s and 2-flat 800s the other day to get ready for a really fast train to latch on to.
Grant led the pace very well through 3k in Ahmed's 12:47 race. He can run 7:30-7:32 for 3k right now, I think, and break 13 for 5000m. For 2M, it'll depend on how close to the front he can get, but drafting can lead him to sub 8:05 here and under the old American record. Chelimo is not a time trialer but he should get the new American record at around 8:02-3. Teg's 8:07 from Pre is the current record.
oldoldrunner wrote:
xczvzxcv wrote:
2 MILE
Selemon BAREGA ETH
Joshua CHEPTEGEI UGA
Paul CHELIMO USA
Grant FISHER USA
William KINCAID USA
Luis GRIJALVA GUT
Jacob KIPLIMO UGA
Berhiu AREGAWI ETH
Joe KLECKER USA
Bethwell BIRGEN KEN
Michael KIBET KEN
Justus SOGET KEN
Nibret MELAK ETH
Marc SCOTT GBR
Mark LOMUKET KEN
Daniel Simiu EBENYO KEN
Just watched a 2016 video of the Woodbridge Cross Country Invitational and Grijalva beats Cooper Teare by a second. Five years later Teare beats Grijalva by a second at NCAA’s and pulls Grijalva to the Olympic 5k standard.
Grijalva applied for and got a travel visa and competed in the Olympics making the 5k final, placing 12th in a PB of 13:10.09.
Now, in two short months he, because he earned it, will be competing against the best in the world in the PRE 2mile.
In America dreams can become reality Now , for his dream to become a USA citizen will become, I hope, a reality soon.
That would be great for his status.
For his running career, maybe not so much in the short term. Guatemala has not incorporated into the US, hasn't ceased to exist and has an Olympic committee (by which he competed in Tokyo), each its own special circumstance which would need to be true for Luis to make an immediate switch to American allegiance.
Luis will need to observe the 3 year waiting period from the date that his application for approval is made to World Athletics (during which period Luis can not represent Guatemala or compete in any Other Relevant Competition).
High hopes wrote:
Aouita 84 wrote:
You clearly have never been an elite runner, nor do you understand the significance of running the 2-mile. First, the 2-mile is an "old school" distance that connects with American high school runners. It allows them to compare what they run to the world's best runners. Many Prep runners don't run 3000's. Second, elite runners enjoy running the "off-distance" event so as to see how fast someone can run back-to-back miles.
It's primarily a nostalgia event like the mile that the athletes enjoy doing. So just relax and enjoy the show.
Don't be such an ass. The 2 mile only connects with American high schoolers. It's an irrelevance as an event on the global stage. Everywhere else in the world, they run the 3000. The mile has historical significance, the 2 mile means nothing to anyone. The only reason elite athletes run it is for the paycheck. You think Cheptegei is going to run around touting his 2 mile WR if he breaks it? Even Mo Farah never talked about his indoor 2 mile record and it was pretty much the only one he had. I'll watch, and hope to see some quality racing but I'm guessing all of the international guys are just going to phone it in - I bet most of them don't even have a 2 mile PR to begin with
I disagree. These runners are much smarter than you think.
They know what a sub 4:00 mile means. They also know that running back to back sub 4:00 miles mean.
I look at the 2mile as something fun to watch. Like the home run derby, three point contest. Etc.. As a running fan it’ll be fun to watch these runners trying to run back to back sub 4:00 miles.
Let’s not forget the Pre Classic is in America where we still go by imperial distances. So it is fitting to use American distances on American soil.
oldoldrunner wrote:
High hopes wrote:
Don't be such an ass. The 2 mile only connects with American high schoolers. It's an irrelevance as an event on the global stage. Everywhere else in the world, they run the 3000. The mile has historical significance, the 2 mile means nothing to anyone. The only reason elite athletes run it is for the paycheck. You think Cheptegei is going to run around touting his 2 mile WR if he breaks it? Even Mo Farah never talked about his indoor 2 mile record and it was pretty much the only one he had. I'll watch, and hope to see some quality racing but I'm guessing all of the international guys are just going to phone it in - I bet most of them don't even have a 2 mile PR to begin with
I disagree. These runners are much smarter than you think.
They know what a sub 4:00 mile means. They also know that running back to back sub 4:00 miles mean.
I look at the 2mile as something fun to watch. Like the home run derby, three point contest. Etc.. As a running fan it’ll be fun to watch these runners trying to run back to back sub 4:00 miles.
Let’s not forget the Pre Classic is in America where we still go by imperial distances. So it is fitting to use American distances on American soil.
And I think you’ll find the women’s two mile will be the race of the weekend. Six chances in my mind from this field. I want to see what shape the Kazakh is in as she builds up to her marathon debut.
Aussiestatman wrote:
oldoldrunner wrote:
I disagree. These runners are much smarter than you think.
They know what a sub 4:00 mile means. They also know that running back to back sub 4:00 miles mean.
I look at the 2mile as something fun to watch. Like the home run derby, three point contest. Etc.. As a running fan it’ll be fun to watch these runners trying to run back to back sub 4:00 miles.
Let’s not forget the Pre Classic is in America where we still go by imperial distances. So it is fitting to use American distances on American soil.
And I think you’ll find the women’s two mile will be the race of the weekend. Six chances in my mind from this field. I want to see what shape the Kazakh is in as she builds up to her marathon debut.
I just followed my own advice and read. I just noticed Tsegay isn’t in any of the start lists. I would love to have seen her in the 2mile then your assessment would 100% correct.
And yet no exact start time listed for each event. Every other Diamond League website has this listed to the minute under Program & Results.. I hope World Athletics never lets Eugene host an event of this caliber ever again. I mean this is not an amateur Go Ducks meet after all.
jasonHason wrote:
And yet no exact start time listed for each event. Every other Diamond League website has this listed to the minute under Program & Results.. I hope World Athletics never lets Eugene host an event of this caliber ever again. I mean this is not an amateur Go Ducks meet after all.
Is this what you are looking for?
https://preclassic.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?do=title&title_id=251&event_id=120Prediction: Lynna Irby gets DQ'ed from the 200 meters when she lines up at the wrong start line.