This dude knocked over all the water bottles in the men’s marathon

Pooh Bear wrote:

6403 wrote:

Do you really believe that?

At that point, he was running in the lead pack, so it's not like he had some kind of "seizure" and just did a "woops".

How much of the race did you see? Several runners were acting very strangely.

For example, one of the South Africans stopped running, staggered over to the side of the road and fell head first into the railings. Then he got up a moment later and resumed running at a decent pace for several minutes. Then he stopped and lay down on the side of the road, clutching his stomach and his facial expression indicated he was in significant pain.

That looked a bit of a stage act. Very odd. Perhaps to save esteem from dnf?

He was also the athlete fist bumping EK only a few minutes before.

track record on the track wrote:

I’m inclined to think the worst of this person, but I don’t think it was intentional. Running fast, hand out, maybe takes his eye off the bottles for a second. It’s not the easiest thing to do at speed in traffic.

That's my vote too.

If he wasn't able to grab that very last bottle, I would be willing to give him the tiniest benefit of the doubt, but to me that demonstrates intent.

Yes, I do honestly believe what I wrote.

The "only" explanation isn't a poor attempt at gamesmanship, I gave quite a detailed post on another explanation above.

Could it have been foul play? I guess it could have, but the body of evidence to support that is pretty small considering the miniscule potential gain, while the evidence against it is fairly large when looking at the event as a whole.

No, I've never done a marathon. I've done a few half's where I haven't been able to think very clearly near the end, but I don't think my previous running history is too relevant here.

I completely disagree with your last paragraph. The duress he was under definitely could have contributed to this event. He's hurting (everyone is) at 30k, running faster than he should have been at that point, based on his finish time. Should he have been more careful? I could agree with that, it was pretty sloppy. But not intentional.

He wasn't knocking over bottles for 20 seconds straight - from touching the first bottle to grabbing the last one, the event lasts less than 1 second.

6403 wrote:

If he wasn't able to grab that very last bottle, I would be willing to give him the tiniest benefit of the doubt, but to me that demonstrates intent.

And he had an open hand down the entire row. He never tried to close his hand around a bottle until the last one.

6403 wrote:

If he wasn't able to grab that very last bottle, I would be willing to give him the tiniest benefit of the doubt, but to me that demonstrates intent.

How? Can he race and juggle at the same time?

zxczxczxcz wrote:

Soy What? wrote:

Where did I mention race? "North African" is not a race, any more than "North American"

In about 90% of your anti-African posts in the last 5 or 6 years, maybe?

Wild, race-baiting swing results in a predictable miss.

Perch wrote:

6403 wrote:

If he wasn't able to grab that very last bottle, I would be willing to give him the tiniest benefit of the doubt, but to me that demonstrates intent.

And he had an open hand down the entire row. He never tried to close his hand around a bottle until the last one.

If you watch a higher quality replay, even at full speed you can see he does try to grab a bottle 2 or 3 times.

The quality of the video linked is honestly atrocious, which is causing a lot of these accusations.

This guy used his hand as a paddle. He didn't even try to pretend to grab those bottles, and he helped a couple off the table. AIU this villain.

Jaguartron wrote:

Perch wrote:

And he had an open hand down the entire row. He never tried to close his hand around a bottle until the last one.

If you watch a higher quality replay, even at full speed you can see he does try to grab a bottle 2 or 3 times.

The quality of the video linked is honestly atrocious, which is causing a lot of these accusations.

That's one explanation. There is also the inevitable trolling going on in this thread.

watch carefully wrote:

6403 wrote:

If he wasn't able to grab that very last bottle, I would be willing to give him the tiniest benefit of the doubt, but to me that demonstrates intent.

How? Can he race and juggle at the same time?

Not sure I follow what you are saying.

In the "civilian" type marathons that I've run, they don't normally have fancy bottled water lined up at the water stations, they have paper cups. It's very possible if not likely that runner might knock over a few of those accidentally, but now a whole row of them! It's pretty easy by comparison to grab a bottle of water, and almost impossible to knock over a whole row of them (and manage to grab the very last one) unless that was your intent.

I don't think this idiot actually thought it was going to give him an advantage, I think it was just an FU to the other runners.

Jaguartron wrote:

This is 100%, completely unintentional.

The first bottle he tries to grab probably gets knocked out of his hand because he hit the second bottle in the row, he then tries to grab another bottle, causing the same thing to happen down the whole table. The last bottle that he grabs isn't knocked out of his hand, because there is no other bottle to knock it out of his hand. Or maybe he was being more careful on the last bottle. At worst, this is a slightly clumsy move.

You have a completely inverted concept of physics. One bottle is not "knocked out of his hand" by a following bottle, ALL the bottles are knocked over by his open hand UNTIL he finally and PRECISELY closes it on the final one, giving away the fact that it was a deliberate move, which he thought he could get away with. Riders in the TDF do this crap all the time, as do certain other so-called "athletes".

I suppose this is also just another "clumsy" move by a "delirious" runner?

Pooh Bear wrote:

6403 wrote:

Do you really believe that?

At that point, he was running in the lead pack, so it's not like he had some kind of "seizure" and just did a "woops".

How much of the race did you see? Several runners were acting very strangely.

For example, one of the South Africans stopped running, staggered over to the side of the road and fell head first into the railings. Then he got up a moment later and resumed running at a decent pace for several minutes. Then he stopped and lay down on the side of the road, clutching his stomach and his facial expression indicated he was in significant pain.

He was actually a Brazilian,but I guess all foreigners look the same to racists.

Jaguartron wrote:

If you watch a higher quality replay, even at full speed you can see he does try to grab a bottle 2 or 3 times.

The quality of the video linked is honestly atrocious, which is causing a lot of these accusations.

Perhaps you should post a link to the higher quality video.

I've got it recorded on my TV - will post a video once I am back home.

watch carefully wrote:

henryr wrote:

I completely agree. Running in a group, super hot, very fast, he isn’t close to the table. We have all seen runners in pro marathons not managing to pick up bottles.

Here is the proof

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=saunzCkbugU

Stop the damn shaming

Well said. That video exonerates him from blame. Haters gonna hate.

this exonerate him?

"If I don't get my money tomorrow, Mourad, you'll be sorry and you'll be the loser because I don't like people taking advantage of me," it says, "just so you know you bought a pack of EPO and you got a pack of growth hormone!!!!". And further: "I'll tell you again, I want my money tomorrow, 150 Euro."

JosePublico wrote:

Soy What? wrote:

It's not even the same guy troll. Admit it your problems made you get it wrong , but you are so invested in them that you switch people to stick with hate. Certainly you at a home devastated.

You have a completely inverted concept of physics. One bottle is not "knocked out of his hand" by a following bottle, ALL the bottles are knocked over by his open hand UNTIL he finally and PRECISELY closes it on the final one, giving away the fact that it was a deliberate move, which he thought he could get away with. Riders in the TDF do this crap all the time, as do certain other so-called "athletes".

I suppose this is also just another "clumsy" move by a "delirious" runner?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ee7xUxBGTw

LOL says the incompetent who can't even insert his reply in proper fashion.

it doesn't make much sense because the bottles in the second row are left alone. in addition to this, there's another table nearby, so it doesn't make sense to wipe it out.