Most grossly obvious doper ever?

I talked with Dr. Mauro Di Pasquale, internationally recognized expert on the topic of drug use and sport, while Flo Jo's death was still an item in the newspapers. He told me personally that there was no way that her death was caused by drug use.

This guy right here....

http://www.mashby.com/images/posts/skinny_kid.gif

The pic of Johnson is from LA. He was a skinny wimp compared to what he was in Seoul.

This could be a very, very, very long list...

The topic was about most grossly obvious dopers. On what grounds would you include any of those? Check the meaning of most grossly obvious before answering.

Not the "most grossly obvious doper ever" but he is a pretty disgusting hypocrite.

maple lover wrote:

The topic was about most grossly obvious dopers. On what grounds would you include any of those? Check the meaning of most grossly obvious before answering.

19.32=Grossly obvious

7:20=Grossly obvious

And so on.

Actually, 19.32 is beyond even Flo-Jo Land in it's Sci-Fi freakishness.

the disgusting low-life regina jacobs. Scum.

deuch wrote:

And the UK contenders

http://www.sporting-heroes.net/athletics-heroes/displayhero.asp?HeroID=816http://www.sporting-heroes.net/athletics-heroes/displayhero.asp?HeroID=1892

Ok, but is that drugs, or is it just being British? I mean, there's some pretty manly English women out there normally (coughCamillaParkerBowlescough.)

So basically anyone that has ever run a fast time was doping?...and it is possible to add mass as late as your 50's. I know people who have done so, with legal supplements, proper diet and exercise, don't you think someone who's job it is to be in shape,w ith millions at their disposal can do so?

Kirsner72 wrote:

http://www.sporting-heroes.net/athletics-heroes/displayhero.asp?HeroID=2533http://www.sporting-heroes.net/athletics-heroes/displayhero.asp?HeroID=1583http://www.sporting-heroes.net/athletics-heroes/displayhero.asp?HeroID=329http://www.sporting-heroes.net/athletics-heroes/displayhero.asp?HeroID=1530http://www.sporting-heroes.net/athletics-heroes/displayhero.asp?HeroID=2082http://www.sporting-heroes.net/athletics-heroes/displayhero.asp?HeroID=377

This could be a very, very, very long list...

I suggest no one listens to this guy.

He is an idiot troll known for taking shots at Gebrselassie because Gebrselassie would lap him twice--in a MILE--if he ever begged his way within 100 yards of the great Haile.

Kirsner, stuff it up your rectum. Seriously. It'll be nice company for all the times your buds in prison had their way with you, stupid piece of crap.

if there is one truely obvious one it has to be mj 19.32. Looking at pics from him at nationals year after year and all of the sudden he explodes that year. tremendous mass, incredibly lean, disappeared that winter, skin started having a waxy finish, its all there.

I don't think there was that much of a difference...can u show us some pictures to compare? (that waxy finish is called sweat)

Yeah, I'll acknowledge that MJ's 19.32 is pretty astonishing, but I don't see the vast physical transformation in his case that is noticeable with Ben Johnson or Flo-jo. And I certainly don't see any "waxy skin."

Johann Muehlegg

By waxy finish I think the dude was referring to the paper-thin stretched skin steroid users get as a result of dramatically reduced body fat. I'm not agreeing with him about MJ because I haven't seen any potentially damning pictures, but 19.32 is suspicious . . .

Amongst currently competing athletes, I harbour strong suspicions towards Constantina Tomescu Ditta.

On the subject of Marie-Jo Perec, I do not know whether she was clean or not, but she was certainly one of the most gifted athletes ever. What she achieved, she did on three running sessions a week. That, is a fact.

letsdope.com wrote:

if there is one truely obvious one it has to be mj 19.32. Looking at pics from him at nationals year after year and all of the sudden he explodes that year. tremendous mass, incredibly lean, disappeared that winter, skin started having a waxy finish, its all there.

Yet again Kirsner, you're terribly, terribly wrong.

Just because MJ runs your 100 PR for 200m doesn't mean he is doped:

1992 Muscular, normal WC athlete's physique:

1993, muscular, normal WC athlete's build:

1995, muscular, normal WC athlete's build:

1996, muscular, and, wouldn't you guess, normal WC athlete's build:

So, in fact, the only thing that changed is Kirsner's screen name.

His idiotic tendency to baste every good athlete remains.

Johnson was on top from 1991-2001. If you knew anything about Clyde Hart's program and the work he put in, you'd know he ran all of his records cleanly. One race of a lifetime in Atlanta coupled with his talent meant a phenomenal WR.

Kirsner, being a misinformed idiot, resorts to baseless drug accusations when he really doesn't have the foggiest clue what he is talking about.

I highly suggest you leave, because no one needs your garbage slander anymore.

died at 35 after 5 heart attacks...Gordon Pierei(sp) new it the who;le time.