The Lamont Marcell Jacobs FACT thread

Number 32 wrote:

congocongo wrote:

No savinova and the turkish runner celebrated vividly after their dopind runs in 2012

Hi Sam.

In the EuroSport interview after the race he seemed a bit off, not the elation you'd expect from somebody who had just won the Olympic gold medal in the premium event at likely 100 to 1 odds.

In the interview I saw he seemed elated and surprised. Said he didn't think he could do 9.8 but his coach did. Talked about what a great day it was for Italian athletics and the high jumper interrupted and rubbed his head.

So I have no idea what you are talking about. Just slandering to slander

Jason Wells wrote:

Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:

I never said anything about doping pointed out facts and facts relative and relevant to the quality of athlete he is now part of history with. Or do these not matter? A$$hole.

You seem like quite a hotheaded blowhard. Call me up some time once you sober up and we can talk politely about your delusions. It's not necessary to go through life as an internet psycho.

Sincerely,

Jason A Wells . Phd.

541 868 4681

Dr.Wells@JasonWellsPhD.com

Your reply doesn’t quite seem to have the ring of “compassionate guidance” that you tout on your profile. I’d say you’re probably as much of a narcissist, and certainly as much of an a$$hole as the guy youre bent on calling out..

The most mentally unstable people I’ve ever met have been in the psychiatry field. Judging from your post, I can’t say that you’d break that mold.

vaccinated wrote:

Number 32 wrote:

Hi Sam.

In the EuroSport interview after the race he seemed a bit off, not the elation you'd expect from somebody who had just won the Olympic gold medal in the premium event at likely 100 to 1 odds.

In the interview I saw he seemed elated and surprised. Said he didn't think he could do 9.8 but his coach did. Talked about what a great day it was for Italian athletics and the high jumper interrupted and rubbed his head.

So I have no idea what you are talking about. Just slandering to slander

The high jumper was ecstatic - that what being ecstatic looks like.

To be fair perhaps he was genuinely stunned, as everybody was,

With just about everybody here calling him a complete juice head, and with much of MSM sports reporting insinuating it - 'he came out of nowhere', 'unbelievable victory' etc., I think 'seemed a bit off in his post-race interview' is well down on the list of possible slanders his lawyers are eyeing.

FACT - Jacobs is guilty of recklessly winning the Olympic 100m while not being an American

Coevett wrote:

The high jumper was ecstatic - that what being ecstatic looks like.

To be fair perhaps he was genuinely stunned, as everybody was,

With just about everybody here calling him a complete juice head, and with much of MSM sports reporting insinuating it - 'he came out of nowhere', 'unbelievable victory' etc., I think 'seemed a bit off in his post-race interview' is well down on the list of possible slanders his lawyers are eyeing.

...yet you didn't see him running straight to the high jumper and the two of them celebrating?

Those dots aren't hard to join. Except for a lot of Let'srun idealists.

Jason Wells wrote:

Oops. perhaps I need to specify for the hothead, narcisist

I am calling you out Salvitore.

Wouldn't you rather be calmer? Don't you need help?

Regards, Jason. Phd

PhD! I'm case anyome missed it!

tooslowhtx wrote:

hmm you missed the obvious. This man set a PR after PR through the rounds. Who has ever run sub 9.85 PR and come back in another sub 9.85 PR in the Olympics rounds? I dont think anyone. You see how the 9.83 run gassed SU and Baker in the semi but he got even stronger and ran a faster PR you cant do that without being on some powerful stuff. Its like how Marion Jones was able to recover and keep a high level at multiple events and never gassed out.

Just rubbish. 2 hours between semi and final is standard. Shouldn’t be gassed.

FACT. If we take the 50 best performances (all time) in the 100m, and we don’t consider the 14 belonging to Usain Bolt, we have 36 left. Well 32 of them belong to sprinters who had doping issues. At the moment Jacobs is not in this 32.

So, what are we talking about?

ItalianRunner wrote:

FACT. If we take the 50 best performances (all time) in the 100m, and we don’t consider the 14 belonging to Usain Bolt, we have 36 left. Well 32 of them belong to sprinters who had doping issues. At the moment Jacobs is not in this 32.

So, what are we talking about?

He should be. Just like if you found yourself improving enough to make an Olympic final.

When is the guy with the fake PHD going to come back and explain himself?

he's off working on his narcissistic shadow self.

Every time Jacobs runs post Tokyo and runs a performance that is back in line with what his actual talent level is (between 10.0 and 10.10), I remember this thread and how absurd it is that anyone actually believed an average long jumper would transition to the 100m and at age 26 hack an astronomical chunk off his PR to win the Olympics.

And I was further reminded of it when I watched him run 10.05 in Budapest looking (in an athlete sense) like a completely different person.

Uh, does the name Carl Lewis ring a bell?

You can't call him an average long jumper - he has jumped 8.48m which carries a score of 1220 on worldathletics (to jump this distance you have to be running in excess of 11 meters per second when you take off from the board, so he has always been fast - but from a standing position rather than a crouched position from blocks)

He also ran 10.2 at 22 years of age, which is a clear indicator of 100m talent, especially for a long jump specialist.

With that being said I do believe he is more of a one hit wonder, his glass hamstrings will make it tough for him to remain competitive as he approaches 30 years of age.

He is probably good for 9.90 if he can stay healthy, 9.80 is a once in a lifetime thing for him I fear

So you did your world athletics homework but failed to see that his 8.48 was jumped with an illegal wind (+2.8) so that doesn't count in any way at all (it was also at 1800ft elevation). I look at his indoor long jump performances (actually the best measure of a horizontal jumpers ability because obviously it's jumped with no climatic impact) and see from 2014-2019 he jumped in the 8.03-8.07 range - that's his level. Average.

Either way his consistency of performances not just across seasons but in season is kind of incredible and sadly for him continues to point out the absurdity of Tokyo. I would just love to know what he was taking.

This is 2023 - the result and the 0.0 wind adjusted performance

10.21 (-0.9) > 10.15

10.15 (-0.4) > 10.14

10.05 (+0.3) > 10.07

10.05 (+0.4) > 10.07. (last night in Xiamen)

I watched the Netflix UNTOLD on the Balco scandal and a central figure was Tim Montgomery and how taking the "clear" was able to essentially drop him 2/10ths of a second in the 100m. It seems like this is the ballpark benefit/gain you can get in the 100m going from clean to taking something.

The difference of course was that Carl was dual 100m/LJ guy his entire career. His "eliteness" in both also went hand in hand his entire career. He wasn't a long jumper whose second event (by far) was the 100m, and when he gave up the long jump went and won the Olympics.

We’ll see what he runs next year - hopefully he is healthy. Since the Olympics he ran 9.95 and his World Indoors title. Running at 85-90% he taps out at 10.0x. Doping skepticism definitely warranted but at least the guy likes to compete even at below his best.

None for a while in the 100. Would have to at least go back to the 80s or earlier.