Grant Fisher Himself Said Chelimo Should not be DQd - "It's just how you race"

I don’t think there should be a DQ called there.

But I think it should be up to the officials, not the competitors to decide if a DQ should be called.

And officials shouldn’t wait for a protest if they see a foul or violation.

kiowavt wrote:

Sure, I always support cheaters. Especially if one of the other athletes okays it. The heck with the rules as long as wejo and dojo and a few on letsrun think lane 4 is not flagrant.

Maybe he Q’s, but drop him to 3rd in standings and prize money please.

So should Hocker have been dq'd for the ncaa 1500m finish?

great post

I hope elite track isn't teaching high schoolers that they should do dick moves.

True that if Teare had nipped Kincaid in lane one this would have been a very different story.

I hope Chelimo and others are shamed into being better sports by this close call.

So Grant Fisher is either ignorant of the rules or was being politically savvy.

What a bunch of 'pussies', a running forum and people still don't understand.

When you are in front you can run in any lane you want. It isd quite different to being passed and pushing the other guy wide.

If they were faster they would have gone past, whether or not he was drifting.

Unless you guys are new to this , it is how the grats a like Ovett, Coe etc 'raced'...its not a time trial

Nah fam. Stick to obsessing over hobbyjogger course cutters and leave the real athlete discussion to us.

it's pretty smart to withhold angry talk, to wait a while before setting off ICBMs.

Doesn't mean it has political motivations...just means an adult is at work here. 'Don't whine on national television about how unfair life' is a pretty good rule to go by.

Probably because Jerry tells them all what to say. Bowerman has to take the high road here because they already looked like the bad burrito boys when the trials started. I think it’s the classy thing to do. Play nice in front of the camera and destroy him in Tokyo.

agip wrote:

Grassrunner wrote:

So Grant Fisher is either ignorant of the rules or was being politically savvy.

it's pretty smart to withhold angry talk, to wait a while before setting off ICBMs.

Doesn't mean it has political motivations...just means an adult is at work here. 'Don't whine on national television about how unfair life' is a pretty good rule to go by.

I agree to a point, but he was actually complimentary of Chelimo's tactic.

He won a ncaa 5 k title

If Fisher had thought that he could have passed Chelimo without the infraction, he'd probably be more upset. After watching again, it's clear that he wasn't closing fast enough to overtake him. After the race, he was probably happy and wanted no drama.

You know when someone is fitter. In a closer scenario, probably an appeal would have been made.

I am Sam wrote:

What a bunch of 'pussies', a running forum and people still don't understand.

When you are in front you can run in any lane you want. It isd quite different to being passed and pushing the other guy wide.

If they were faster they would have gone past, whether or not he was drifting.

Unless you guys are new to this , it is how the grats a like Ovett, Coe etc 'raced'...its not a time trial

echo

you want the rule to move a guy back a place and not the DQ unless it is crazy abuse.

a minor foul in basketball does not get you kicked out of the Olympics

nor any sport what so ever

That was the best comment I have seen so far.

My thinking is that if you need this much space to justify his move then it was certainly not a fair move. What if the Cooper Teare ended up 2nd because Chelimo impeded the other two. It definitely could have happened. I suppose you will just call Fischer and Kincaid bad racers.

The upshot of this argument is that whether or not it was a breach of the rules - and it is argued it is - it is a fair enough tactic if you think it will help you win. Which means poor sportsmanship is legitimate to many runners.

I think you missed the part where he says Chelimo covered every move he made in the last lap and would have beaten him regardless of which lane he ended in. You can deny it all you want, but in this race on this day, Chelimo was in top form and hard to beat.

Lawyers, Guns, and Money wrote:

Grant Fisher is either an idiot or too big of a pansy to state the truth.

Chelimo broke rules by impeding Fisher and should be DQd. Any runner that drifts out to impede runners should be DQd. This is not how racing goes. Anyone that thinks that this is how people should race, should find another sport. In this sport, it is not allowed.

Why can't you drift out as long as you don't cut anyone off?

The Unkle wrote:

Why can't you drift out as long as you don't cut anyone off?

The whole point is to cut someone off. I think the rabbit-chop and throat-punch should also be acceptable.

Why didn't Centro move out to lane 4 if it's such a great tactic? Would have been great to watch the double standards unfold lmao