This is ridiculous! Eating a trace amount of a naturally occurring substance is NOT doping!

Hardloper wrote:

Is it confirmed that she could not produce a credit card receipt of the purchase?

False, she did produce a credit card receipt.

ban for being stupid wrote:

I have heard of nandrolone and I know that meat contains steroids. I avoid all red meat, except hormone and antibiotic free meat from Wholefoods for health reasons. I don’t want that crap in my body.

Boars produce nandrolone naturally.

longjack wrote:

https://www.google.com/search?q=nandrolone+in+pork+pubmed&ei=3QXIYMzKNufK0PEPirmOwAw&oq=nandrolone+in+pork+pubmed&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAM6BwgAEEcQsAM6BQghEKABOggIIRAWEB0QHjoECCEQFToHCCEQChCgAVCZ_l9Y6IxgYJiOYGgBcAJ4AIABzwKIAd4GkgEFNy4zLTGYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6yAEFwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwiMrZTcwZjxAhVnJTQIHYqcA8gQ4dUDCA8&uact=5

hey nerds, go for it

Pubmed.

find out the highest concentration of nandrolone in meat.

and the concentration in the human in these studies.

not i,

we're wrapping up the holiday and letsrun time waste.

Looks like the concentrations is much, much higher in organ meat. Eating just muscle alone seems unlikely to get you there. Also all these studies are on wild boar? I don't know what to expect in farmed pigs... any insight?

Here also:

The dog ate her homework.

Armstronglivs wrote:

The dog ate her homework.

😂

It’s no wonder con artists like Trump and Carlson can take advantage of so many Americans. So willingly gullible.

Im assuming someones gone back to the food truck and found their pork supplier and tested the met for nandro, right?

Seems the most logical thing to do and I'm sure she could clear her name this way..if the meat was contaminated.

Its been months since she failed the test..surely BTC has had people look into this..no?

Hardloper wrote:

I'm not even a big Shelby fan but come on! She's obviously not micro-dosing on nandrolone in the offseason.

Believe it or not Hardloper....even white people dope sometimes.

LRC official stance on doping: "Got another one!! We encourage any and ALL accusations about doping....supported or NOT! Go get 'em!"

unless....it doesn't fit their profile of a doper ...then it's .."hmm...we gotta change the system here...something OBVIOUSLY not working"

dude, most people on here are cheering her ban. hopefully they revoke those 14:20 doped outliers Shelby and Karissa ran.

1 down, hundreds more to go. Bust ‘em all. Sorry folks, we might have a bunch of 13:45 guys in the Olympic 5,000. I guess that’s the price we pay for a clean sport.

Dr. Bannister wrote:

dude, most people on here are cheering her ban. hopefully they revoke those 14:20 doped outliers Shelby and Karissa ran.

LRC official article certainly decided to take a nuanced tone this time though... dindn'it?

Advanced Training Methods:

Hey go grab a pork burrito on the way to the the good doctor's office for your vitamin injection.

AmenBrotha wrote:

As a carry over fan from cycling, it's ludicrous how often cyclists blame 'tainted meat' only to fully admit later on that they were doping. Running fans are so eager to blow on cycling when running is just as dirty. Shelby cheated, as do probably all Nike athletes in some way, and tons of runners at large. People on these message boards are delusional.

Does anyone really think that it's a coincidence that all these people are running insanely fast times the season after out of competition tests were suspended in many areas? Cmon.

I think a lot of us think about pros as just faster versions of our own runner selves when the reality is that the mind, body, and moral code of a professional athlete is completely alien to someone at the hobby level, or even at a “higher” level of competition, D1 etc

Harambe wrote:

Looks like the concentrations is much, much higher in organ meat. Eating just muscle alone seems unlikely to get you there. Also all these studies are on wild boar? I don't know what to expect in farmed pigs... any insight?

She said they served offal, which includes liver.

Dick Pound said you could eat pig testicles every day for a week and not test positive.

I specialize in dumb comments. wrote:

Don't be so gullible. If eating contaminated pork was a thing, then every meathead in the world would be eating at Mexican food trucks five meals a day.

No since the levels would not be enough to get them where they want to be.

Not all academic papers are great. There was a paper a number of years ago proving penis size predicts economic activity. And the number of sunspots predict stock market returns. Take it from me, it’s very easy to manipulate statistics to tell any story you want.

Anyways, why is it so hard for people to believe she was doping? She cheated. She got banned. End of story.

Not saying she's guilty . However she had enough stuff in her system that she would have had to eat about 10 to 14 4-oz burritos , and the drug increases strength increases red blood cells , increases bone density do th,e math.

MI Strong wrote:

Hardloper wrote:

Is it confirmed that she could not produce a credit card receipt of the purchase?

False, she did produce a credit card receipt.

If I’m clever enough to microdose, then I’m certainly clever enough to walk past the food truck each day, buy the all-natural American boar balls special, get a receipt, chuck the bbs in the bin and go home.

Many of you are displaying ignorance about steroids. Nandrolone (now that prohormones are a thing of the past) is an oil based steroid that stays in the blood for years. No-one would choose it if they wanted to dope. To put it differently: if someone were to try and dope, don't you think they'd do a little bit of homework? No common sense in this case. She is a pawn.