Caitlyn Jenner is against Transgender athletes competing in women’s sports

SDSU Aztec wrote:

I also believe that had Jenner transitioned when she was young, she could have won the heptathlon. That brings up the question of a whether a significant advantage in one sport justifies an across the board ban in all sports including distance running, where hormone treatments have proved to be effective.

IOC supports the idea of different policies for difference sports.

The problem is that T&F includes both race walking and javelin throw, and both are governed by the same organization.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

Wrong.

If Bruce Jenner was down to earth, he would have been a transsexual male who felt like a female and wore dresses and skirts.

He SWITCHED his whole identity.

Whether he knows the difference is a small factor.

I don't support crossing genders in sports but I don't think a man/trans woman who decided at a late age to switch (and after a brutal accident --to avoid serving time??) should weigh in here.

We all know if some right leaning poster put this on the board the SJW would come on here suggesting the appropriate way Jenner should have handled her personal situation everyone on the left would have been screaming at them. Intolerance is fine as long it is someone on the left trashing Republicans.

People always say how brave and strong trans people are. If you are strong then compete against people with the same biological background. Taking away victories from girls is anything but brave. Its chicken sh*t. Dress how you want but make competition fair.

dumptruxk wrote:

Didn't he run someone over in his car while texting with no repercussion?

Yep. The person died. Kaitlyn is a murderer. But if someone speaks the truth and liberals don't like it, they are cancelled. Humanity makes a lot of sense sometimes.

this isn't lack of acceptance wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

I still believe her having that opinion is purely a political calculation. Running for governor as a transgender female and competing against women are both legal, yet she deserves acceptance and they don't. I've lost what little respect I had for her.

Believing that athletic classifications should be based on sex rather than gender doesn't constitute a lack of acceptance of transgender individuals.

To the twisted left, it does. Just like the twisted left conflates immigrants with illegal immigration. And its not because that are dumb. Its a calculated, put YOU PERSONALLY on the defensive because you are charged with being a bad person.

this isn't lack of acceptance wrote:

No one is suggesting that transgender athletes should be banned from competing. People are suggesting that classifications should be based on sex rather than gender. Requiring someone to compete as a male because their sex is male is not equivalent to banning them from competition.

It absolutely does ban transgender athletes. Trans men with XX chromosomes and receiving hormone therapy are banned from women's competition. They are also banned from men's because of the lack of a Y chromosome.

Give me Reagan any day wrote:

Is the whole Caitlyn Jenner campaign going to happen?

Honestly, making trans issues in sports a huge part of the campaign is the smartest move Jenner could possibly make.

By winning votes on the backs of social issues that in reality affect a small number of people that are overrepresented on this forum, Jenner can completely avoid having to campaign on the economic and government issues that a governor would actually have to deal with. What does she know about water rights in an area that drives US food production? What about balancing the economic interests of the major cities against the rural parts of the state?

This way, Jenner can completely hide lack of experience in running an administration in a huge state with with a broad economy. 4D chess to play all the suckers.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Jenner for Gov wrote:

Amazing that the most famous transgender person in the world, and a former Olympic gold medal winner, is against bio males in women’s sports.

Caitlyn knows how to think for herself and is I afraid of the nonsense liberal mob. She’s got my vote.

By running for governor, she's asking for acceptance for who she is, but on the other hand, does not accept transgender athletes. She can't have it both ways.

What a twisted load of caca. I can oppose 21 year olds competing with 12 year olds. That doesn't mean I do not accept 21 year olds. I can oppose illegal immigration while not opposing immigration. Are you really an educated person?

Give me Reagan any day wrote:

Is the whole Caitlyn Jenner campaign going to happen?

Honestly, making trans issues in sports a huge part of the campaign is the smartest move Jenner could possibly make.

By winning votes on the backs of social issues that in reality affect a small number of people that are overrepresented on this forum, Jenner can completely avoid having to campaign on the economic and government issues that a governor would actually have to deal with. What does she know about water rights in an area that drives US food production? What about balancing the economic interests of the major cities against the rural parts of the state?

This way, Jenner can completely hide lack of experience in running an administration in a huge state with with a broad economy. 4D chess to play all the suckers.

Jenner isn"t making this a campaign issue. She made these remarks after being confronted and questioned by a reporter when she came out of a coffee shop. You are just making this crap up.

blatz40 wrote:

Give me Reagan any day wrote:

Is the whole Caitlyn Jenner campaign going to happen?

Honestly, making trans issues in sports a huge part of the campaign is the smartest move Jenner could possibly make.

By winning votes on the backs of social issues that in reality affect a small number of people that are overrepresented on this forum, Jenner can completely avoid having to campaign on the economic and government issues that a governor would actually have to deal with. What does she know about water rights in an area that drives US food production? What about balancing the economic interests of the major cities against the rural parts of the state?

This way, Jenner can completely hide lack of experience in running an administration in a huge state with with a broad economy. 4D chess to play all the suckers.

I don't believe Jenner is playing 4D chess. Being both a formerly pro-Trump Republican and a transgender female should offend just about every voter in the state. At best, a transgender female is likely to receive single digit support from Republicans.

You are very quick to throw the "transphobic" label around. Have you always been a misogynist , or did you develop those feelings in response to the related athletic concerns? Are the women in your life aware of your misogynistic impulses?

And how fair is it for a man to be running for Governor of California as a woman?

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this isn't lack of acceptance wrote:

No one is suggesting that transgender athletes should be banned from competing. People are suggesting that classifications should be based on sex rather than gender. Requiring someone to compete as a male because their sex is male is not equivalent to banning them from competition.

It absolutely does ban transgender athletes. Trans men with XX chromosomes and receiving hormone therapy are banned from women's competition. They are also banned from men's because of the lack of a Y chromosome.

Please provide examples in support of the latter part of your statement.

Viking21 wrote:

Tatar wrote:

It absolutely does ban transgender athletes. Trans men with XX chromosomes and receiving hormone therapy are banned from women's competition. They are also banned from men's because of the lack of a Y chromosome.

Please provide examples in support of the latter part of your statement.

If we decide to base classification on "biological sex" this trans man would be prevented from competing in the women's because of hormone therapy but wouldn't qualify for the men's because Mosier has XX chromosomes and was assigned as a girl at birth.

C. C. Writer wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

By running for governor, she's asking for acceptance for who she is, but on the other hand, does not accept transgender athletes. She can't have it both ways.

What a twisted load of caca. I can oppose 21 year olds competing with 12 year olds. That doesn't mean I do not accept 21 year olds. I can oppose illegal immigration while not opposing immigration. Are you really an educated person?

Dude, you just have to read the Username. He advertises the fact that he's not educated.

Tatar wrote:

Viking21 wrote:

Please provide examples in support of the latter part of your statement.

If we decide to base classification on "biological sex" this trans man would be prevented from competing in the women's because of hormone therapy but wouldn't qualify for the men's because Mosier has XX chromosomes and was assigned as a girl at birth.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Mosier

If? You explicitly stated that "they" were banned due to lack of a Y chromosome. Please cite.

Viking21 wrote:

Tatar wrote:

If we decide to base classification on "biological sex" this trans man would be prevented from competing in the women's because of hormone therapy but wouldn't qualify for the men's because Mosier has XX chromosomes and was assigned as a girl at birth.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Mosier

If? You explicitly stated that "they" were banned due to lack of a Y chromosome. Please cite.

Please read the post I was replying to first. I'm very obviously responding to the poster's point that transgender people are not banned if birth sex is used to classify athletes. Trans men are banned.... if that is implemented.

Making this crap up? You and I both know identity politics is how the game is played these days, from the left especially, because it gets votes. It sounds like you also find identity politics distasteful.

But good to hear this particular issue won't become a campaign topic, we hear enough about it as it is.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

Wrong.

If Bruce Jenner was down to earth, he would have been a transsexual male who felt like a female and wore dresses and skirts.

He SWITCHED his whole identity.

Whether he knows the difference is a small factor.

I don't support crossing genders in sports but I don't think a man/trans woman who decided at a late age to switch (and after a brutal accident --to avoid serving time??) should weigh in here.

Likely he had this in his mind a long time.

Decided to win the Men's Decathlon, instead of the Women's Pentahlon.

:-)