Centro is... not DONE.

Interesting point. I agree about a world class team but the biggest thing I notice is weight. I know people hate to talk about this but... and I am being serious... he is missing the hollowed out cheek look. You can call it whatever you want but Centro has a racing look and he doesn't have it right now. The more Centro face definition.. the better he runs. (Have a field day about how drugs create that look.. I dc)

And oh how you wish you were Centro. Too bad you'll never know what that feels like.

Keep Dreamin'

flvmmox wrote:

if centro makes the olympics (he wont)

i will recreate this form for centro and have everyone fill it out

https://twitter.com/44TheLegend/status/1200792505769512960?s=19

already drafted one, actually

Awesome!!! Will be saving this for later...

flvmmox wrote:

already drafted one, actually

https://i.imgur.com/KYSzrnc.png

He wont even make finals

A few times and dates to compare and consider for Mr C, from my own experience:

June 16th 800m 1:50.07 53.1-57.0 Thursday USA Championships, 5th place, Florida

June24th Mile 3:59.21 Friday, Lausanne, Switzerland, 3rd place, 58.3 last lap

July 2nd Mile 3:50.57 Saturday, Oslo, Norway, 6th place 55.5 last lap

July 23rd 1500m 3:41.52 Saturday, Olympic Trials

You can run an awful 1:50 800m, compete poorly, flat and tired, and 16 days later run 3:50 for the mile. But what is lacking, for me in 1988, was the mental confidence that I had done enough. Letting the pace go slow through 1100m, getting tripped (slightly) after the bell, and still thinking one can win. Even if not being tripped, the result would have been the same. 4th at the Trials, no Olympic Team. Stay home and watch others line up for the start.

Compare:

June 5th 800m 1:50.1 ht, Friday, 1st 53.8-56.3, Naperville, Illinios

June 10th, 1500m 3:39.16, Indianapolis, 3rd (Marcus O'Sullivan won)

June 28th, 1500m 3:36.24, New Orleans, 1st

So in the second scenario, 23 days after running 1:50.1 hand time, win the 1992 Olympic Trials. taking the lead at the 800m mark, running 56.8 3rd lap and :54 last lap.

50% success rate. One cannot take an 800m race and use this as the only value in determining the outcome at a later date. Even when using vo2 charts, 1:50.0 is a 4:02 mile. And Mr C has more time to prepare than the two periods of time noted above. Other variables remained constant - weight was 138.5 on June 2nd 1992 and 138.5 on June 16th. Similar to June 14th 1988 of 137.0 and 139.5 on June 30th 1988.

Recommend looking at a series of data points over a period of time, leading up to the June Olympic Trials. Throw out the high and low of the Bell curve. Add into the equation what Dr David Martin called grit when doing the treadmill test. Knowing where you are supposed to be with 400-600 to go .... cannot measure but crucial. And for training: If locked into how many miles you need to get in a week, count in kilometers and you get to your goal a lot faster.

J Spivey

This is pure gold from Spivey. Now all the trolls need to shut up and stop judging Centro until he doesn't make the team.

speculation is like half of the fun of discussion boards

people are free to predict whatever they want

you are free to call them stupid, if that's what you want to do

Blast from 2018 past. Nice workout and Centro says he wants the 1500/mile AR. Perhaps that 1:50 was on tired legs:

https://youtu.be/SrtkbGpSjHM

He wont even make the finals? His strength, if anything, is managing rounds and field positioning. Engels, Centro, Thompson.

“Go run some”

PURE GOLD from Mr. Spivey here and the exact reason I started this thread: an early season 800, even placed in context, can offer surprisingly little insight into the rest of the season

AHEM

ATTENTION ALL DOUBTERS

jabouko wrote:

AHEM

ATTENTION ALL DOUBTERS

He must have gotten a special covid shot with the added non-detectable track speed boosters.

he definitely looked smooth today. i never counted him out, but his performances the past 1.5 years up until today have been by his standards....poor. excited for the trials and hopefully some fast times.

reel flav wrote:

nah he done

Lololol

flvmmox wrote:

flvmmox wrote:

if centro makes the olympics (he wont)

i will recreate this form for centro and have everyone fill it out

https://twitter.com/44TheLegend/status/1200792505769512960?s=19

already drafted one, actually

https://i.imgur.com/KYSzrnc.png

Lmao this is beautiful, I will be filling one out

BobDylan wrote:

Interesting point. I agree about a world class team but the biggest thing I notice is weight. I know people hate to talk about this but... and I am being serious... he is missing the hollowed out cheek look. You can call it whatever you want but Centro has a racing look and he doesn't have it right now. The more Centro face definition.. the better he runs. (Have a field day about how drugs create that look.. I dc)

He could have intentionally put on some weight to keep himself healthy. He probably wants to play it safe seeing that these last couple years have been rough with the injuries, and that this will probably be his last Olympic year. I noticed his legs looked a bit bulkier too.

I hate that people have made it politically incorrect/taboo to talk about weight in professional running. It’s appropriate to do when talking about weight in basketball, football, mma, why not running? Even nick symmonds, someone who got/gets a lot of (unnecessary IMO) flak about his weight says it should be an open topic in running.

When I was 6’1 160-165 I was injured very often, and got I sick a lot. Now that I’m 6’1 175ish I’m running significantly better in the 2 mile and under, and I haven’t been injured in nearly a year, despite running more than double the mileage at times.

I obviously ain’t no centrowitz but it’s just a thought.

Westlake Tavern Pizza wrote:

iamconfused wrote:

There are high schoolers who are faster. He’s done.

Cretins spraying the board all day, wanting to take some scalp from the reigning olympic champ...

I'm not a Centro fanboi, but you NEVER bet against a winner:

He's proven his ability to deliver at 1500m for the last decade.

He's proven his ability to gain fitness, despite sub-par spring results.

He's proven his ability to perform when it counts.

People want to pretend that Hocker, Cole, et al are the second coming of Christ for USA mid-D after dropping hot times in Feb. They will surely produce and maybe have a Centro-like future to come, but hot times in Feb/March do not guarantee the farm in June/July.

Shoutout to the short-sighted T&F "fans" who wrote off a proven winner with 10 years of clutch performances, international finals and real results. USA's will be fun: we'll see who still has their leg speed.

I'm a big fan of Nuguse, Hocker and Teare, but you never bet against a winner.

Exactly.

Every year early season people say centro is done cause he posts a slow rust buster, which is totally normal for him. It's idiotic. He always shows up when it counts.

Even if he doesn't do great come championship time this year,the early season slow race isn't an argument why. He always takes time to get rolling each season and honestly props to him for timing his peak perfect every damn time.

He does look a little heavier than usual.

Olympics probably aren't happening so a lot of this "how will x to at Olympics" talk is moot anyways