Huge ZAGS fan here. If you live in Idaho, the ZAGS are your team because we have zero professional sports teams. Spokane, where the ZAGS are located, has ZERO professional sports teams.
The ZAGS are the only show in town so their following is extreme.
America deserves Baylor vs Gonzaga.
My Prediction;
ZAGS 88
BEARS 80
Bring that title to Spokane Baby!!!!
Baylor +4.5 / Gonzaga -200
O/U 159.5
Illinois Arizona 2005
g hersh wrote:
I can’t get over how good that game was. Both sides played tremendous and then you had a crazy shot to end it right after drama the other way.
Got to be the best college basketball game this century.
Wasn’t the title game but someone name a better one.
You obviously haven't been watching college basketball if you think this was the best basketball game of the century
It was obviously a very exciting game, but in 2021, it seems like too much of the game is about trying to draw fouls, trying to see if the refs can actually call fouls correctly, and, umm, trying to draw more and more fouls. The number of times the game has to stop in the final few minutes ruins a good deal of the excitement factor.
UNC/Nova game has to be one of the few that challenge it. Stakes were just a touch higher in a championship game &, for whatever reason, the last play design just looked better imo (i.e. an actual play versus run down & throw one up).
Idk why people are hating on the Syracuse/UConn BET game. Maybe because they don't remember what the old BE was like (not that the new one has been bad). That game was bonkers.
NERunner00053 wrote:
UNC/Nova game has to be one of the few that challenge it. Stakes were just a touch higher in a championship game &, for whatever reason, the last play design just looked better imo (i.e. an actual play versus run down & throw one up).
Idk why people are hating on the Syracuse/UConn BET game. Maybe because they don't remember what the old BE was like (not that the new one has been bad). That game was bonkers.
I went for a run when OT started in that Syracuse/UConn game. The game was still going on when I finished, and it was not a short run.
Never Justified wrote:
Villanova - UNC in the title game a few years back. UNC hit a ridiculous 3 to tie the score; 'Nova rushed up the floor and stuck a 30-footer at the buzzer FTW.
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Man Bear Pig Man wrote:
Never Justified wrote:
Villanova - UNC in the title game a few years back. UNC hit a ridiculous 3 to tie the score; 'Nova rushed up the floor and stuck a 30-footer at the buzzer FTW.
This is the correct answer
Agreed.
Chalmers' shot in 2008 to force OT was better as well.
Buzzer beaters are great but when the score is tied there is no penalty for a bad shot. Worst case you get 5 more minutes.
Harambe wrote:
Man Bear Pig Man wrote:
This is the correct answer
Agreed.
Chalmers' shot in 2008 to force OT was better as well.
Buzzer beaters are great but when the score is tied there is no penalty for a bad shot. Worst case you get 5 more minutes.
Harambe, the score was tied when Jenkins won it for Nova.
coach wrote:
Harambe wrote:
Agreed.
Chalmers' shot in 2008 to force OT was better as well.
Buzzer beaters are great but when the score is tied there is no penalty for a bad shot. Worst case you get 5 more minutes.
Harambe, the score was tied when Jenkins won it for Nova.
Yup! So at least it was in the title game - for all the chips, etc.
Criteria for a good buzzer beater:
0) Win with a 3 down 2 (ultimate guts play)
1) Take the lead from behind
2) Tie with a 3 from behind (must shoot 3 so defense is single-minded)
3) Take lead from tie
4) Tie with a 2
If you can't hit #0-1 then at least do it in the Championship game.
Poole's shot for UM against Houston is a pretty great recent one.
Rivers against UNC was
Oops, cut off my thought.
Rivers against UNC was pretty nuts for a non-NCAA tourney game.
Yeah these are kind of the only options right - glad the consensus sits on only really these two.
Depends on your criteria - the Nova/NC game was for THE chip so that's a huge factor and someone else pointed out quite correctly that NC had forced the situation with a prayer of their own. I think the fact it was played in front on what 75'000 people slightly warps the perception of that game favorably because the crowd reactions are justifiably insane.
On the other hand that Zaga/UCLA game had a combined 11 more points than that title game (in regular and 32 counting OT) and it's not like either team played bad defense because they didn't. Both teams shot the absolute lights out - especially UCLA which went 0.58/0.47 from the field and 3pt respectively. It was also one overtime period deep already which is something that 2016 title game didn't have.
I'm going to give it to the Gonzaga/UCLA game for this reason. From tip-off to final buzzer I think it was a better game in it's entirety, and also because this was huge for the program and the legacy of Mark Few. Villanova of course had a title and a handful of final 4's by 2016 and NC needs no mention. But this sends Gonzaga to their first ever final 4 and had they not made it this time, it would have been a crushing blow to be undefeated until losing to an 11 seed (albeit a clearly excellent one that was more of a 2-3 seed quality) and missing out on the final 4. A lot was riding on that shot.
No wrong answer though. Both epic games.
Harambe wrote:
Man Bear Pig Man wrote:
This is the correct answer
Agreed.
Chalmers' shot in 2008 to force OT was better as well.
Buzzer beaters are great but when the score is tied there is no penalty for a bad shot. Worst case you get 5 more minutes.
As a Kansas fan, I have to agree with 2008 but it wasn't really back and forth; it was just a fantastic comeback punctuated by Chalmers' shot.
Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:
Yeah these are kind of the only options right - glad the consensus sits on only really these two.
Depends on your criteria - the Nova/NC game was for THE chip so that's a huge factor and someone else pointed out quite correctly that NC had forced the situation with a prayer of their own. I think the fact it was played in front on what 75'000 people slightly warps the perception of that game favorably because the crowd reactions are justifiably insane.
On the other hand that Zaga/UCLA game had a combined 11 more points than that title game (in regular and 32 counting OT) and it's not like either team played bad defense because they didn't. Both teams shot the absolute lights out - especially UCLA which went 0.58/0.47 from the field and 3pt respectively. It was also one overtime period deep already which is something that 2016 title game didn't have.
I'm going to give it to the Gonzaga/UCLA game for this reason. From tip-off to final buzzer I think it was a better game in it's entirety, and also because this was huge for the program and the legacy of Mark Few. Villanova of course had a title and a handful of final 4's by 2016 and NC needs no mention. But this sends Gonzaga to their first ever final 4 and had they not made it this time, it would have been a crushing blow to be undefeated until losing to an 11 seed (albeit a clearly excellent one that was more of a 2-3 seed quality) and missing out on the final 4. A lot was riding on that shot.
No wrong answer though. Both epic games.
This is not Gonzaga's first final appearance.
Uconn Syracuse 2009
Madison Square Garden
In Regulation - no lead by more than 5 points
SIX overtimes!!
EIGHT players fouled out
Syracuse had to play the 6th overtime with all walkons that had a combined 4 points scored that season - and they won!, upsetting #3 team in country (#1 a week prior)
A game winning 3pt buzzer beater called off
6 game determining shots art the buzzer - Multiple buzzer beaters made and multiple spinning out or blocked.
26 steals
26 blocks
58 3pt attempts
103 field goal attemps in Overtime alone!
kae kam wrote:
Uconn Syracuse 2009
Madison Square Garden
In Regulation - no lead by more than 5 points
SIX overtimes!!
EIGHT players fouled out
Syracuse had to play the 6th overtime with all walkons that had a combined 4 points scored that season - and they won!, upsetting #3 team in country (#1 a week prior)
A game winning 3pt buzzer beater called off
6 game determining shots art the buzzer - Multiple buzzer beaters made and multiple spinning out or blocked.
26 steals
26 blocks
58 3pt attempts
103 field goal attemps in Overtime alone!
A conference quarterfinals. A 10 point win margin. The final OT was a blowout. Not close to the best.
That 3pt buzzer beater called off BECAUSE it did not beat the buzzer.
I like the hockey game on Saturday where the North Dakota Sioux came back on Minnesota
Duluth from 2 goals behind in the last two minutes and then survived five overtimes before losing out for the Frozen Four.
The 2011 Big East tournament game between UConn and Pitt was pretty awesome - Kemba literally made the defender fall down as he hit the buzzer beater.
conf quarters wrote:
kae kam wrote:
Uconn Syracuse 2009
Madison Square Garden
In Regulation - no lead by more than 5 points
SIX overtimes!!
EIGHT players fouled out
Syracuse had to play the 6th overtime with all walkons that had a combined 4 points scored that season - and they won!, upsetting #3 team in country (#1 a week prior)
A game winning 3pt buzzer beater called off
6 game determining shots art the buzzer - Multiple buzzer beaters made and multiple spinning out or blocked.
26 steals
26 blocks
58 3pt attempts
103 field goal attemps in Overtime alone!
A conference quarterfinals. A 10 point win margin. The final OT was a blowout. Not close to the best.
That 3pt buzzer beater called off BECAUSE it did not beat the buzzer.
The final overtime does not negate the amazement of the regulation and first FIVE overtimes. No other game has more exciting overtimes and total amount of amazing crunch time as Syracuse uconn 2009
kae kam wrote:
The final overtime does not negate the amazement of the regulation and first FIVE overtimes. No other game has more exciting overtimes and total amount of amazing crunch time as Syracuse uconn 2009
We found the Syracuse alum on this thread.