Ed Viesturs discipline was much different to what Hobbs does. Hobbs is competition climber where the main goal is to do the single hardest pitch of pure rock climbing.
Ed Viesturs was a great mountaineer. I believe he ran low 3s for the marathon which in no way compares to a high schooler breaking 4.
Not a good apples to apples comparison, but what Hobbs is doing from a pure athletic physiological standpoint trounces what Ed achieved.
Hobbs and Kessler
ok im calling bS on this 4:18 to 3:57 ?on what planet does this ever happen?
I think Hobbs just had a lucky race. He may get under 4 again, but it'll be maybe 2 years before he gets under 3:55. Sometimes athletes just have flukes. I think y'all are getting too excited. African runners are able to do this kind of stuff all the time.
Haha dude I think you're jealous, you keep discrediting him on multiple threads.
You know why 4:05 kids become 3:59 kids freshman year, they get to run with other 3:59 kids from their school or even just other 4:05 kids. On a high school team, they'd be lucky to have a 4:20 guy running with them.
Hobbs doesn't even have that, he has something better, an Olympic medalist to train with. That's gonna take you to the next level. If we had our best athletes training with the best when younger you'd see this more, just like in Africa. We ain't seen the last of him.
Sham 69 wrote:
I think Hobbs just had a lucky race. He may get under 4 again, but it'll be maybe 2 years before he gets under 3:55. Sometimes athletes just have flukes. I think y'all are getting too excited. African runners are able to do this kind of stuff all the time.
Your jealousy is showing.
He will run 3:50 by June.
One reason Ryun didn't run faster indoors in high school than Hobbs is that the tracks were 10-12 laps for a mile race back then. Way more turns. Today's indoor facilities like BU, Texas A&M, etc are as fast as outdoor tracks.
he ran 4:08 in the summer with a 65 last lap (paced pros through 1200 in 3:03)
lease wrote:
Ryun ran 3:39.0 for 1500m about 20 months after starting high school training.
Some weeks past his 17th birthday.
More than half a century ago.
Plus he walked 5 miles to school uphill both ways in the snow!
thespeedmaker2 wrote:
ok im calling bS on this 4:18 to 3:57 ?on what planet does this ever happen?
Gault wrote an article explaining the back story. He was training with Willis and had run faster times that were put on YouTube but not official cause of Covid and not being at a real meet
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2021/02/an-unknown-high-schooler-just-ran-a-357-mile-everything-you-need-to-about-hobbs-kesslers-record-breaking-run/d;f;f/cf wrote:
Today's indoor facilities like BU, Texas A&M, etc are as fast as outdoor tracks.
No. Full stop. Move on.
This kid will run 3:50 outdoor. He is the most talented high school runner ever.
He has incredible natural talent. And with the low mileage he is running, I expect to see him get even faster.
As a rock climber the kid must have great strength to weight ratio plus more importantly NO FEAR.
He seems to have the strength of say Peter Snell and the mental fortitude of a Kenyan.
In the modern era, I think he'll surpass Alan Webb. Time will tell.
PS. Ryun is still the greatest imo.
You know he might just be the most talented rock climber ever too. Going to nationals for rock climbing while also being that good at running?? I know rock climbers and they devote all their year and training energy to getting their back and arms stronger. The serious ones I know carry an extra 15lbs of muscle in their back, chest, arms and forearms. And besides the fact that that the extra weight will slow you down as a runner, the amount of strength you need to be competitive at nationals takes years upon years of continuous hard training such that there is no room to also be really competitive in running. If he were training as hard as his competitors were, his body shouldn’t have the recovery power to also tolerate any running training. It makes no sense, this guy is so talented.