I want serious help now

david45 wrote:

CopperRunner wrote:

Dear David,

I mean this from the bottom of my heart.

I believe you need 3/5 of the following points to be a better than average runner, 4/5 of the following points to be a national class runner, and 5/5 of the following points to be world class (think a sub 4 mile)

-Good genetics, meaning good muscle fiber balance and a naturally strong Vo2Max system.

-A good healthy diet and sleep schedule

- A strong “whatever it takes” attitude

-Good, consistent training

-High Pain tolerance

David, I mean this with all of the love in my heart. But you’d score a 0/5 on this test if taken today.

I don’t even give myself the genetics point, and I could run a 6:30 mile with 0 training as an overweight pre pubescent 13 year old.

Obviously you can change David, I started out my running journey with a 30:36 5k. I slowly worked on developing the skills that a person can change and 5 years later I’m getting ready run sub 15:30 in the 5k.

David, as a 19 year old you don’t have enough time to get your mile time under 4 minutes. Can you even run at sub 4 pace for a 100m right now?

Focus on fixing your attitude, get your body strong, eat better, find better daily habits, and (pardon my language) stop being a little b!tch.

I already score 3/5. I just don't have talent or the ability to train consistently due to injuries.

water from the forest wrote:

david, did you grow up very inactive (not involved in any sports or playing outside for fun, spending the day outside, running around in fields/roads/playgrounds and so on)... and before and during you started running just sat during the rest of the time? I am just wondering. When I grew up, there were not really many or any fat people at least where I was (I am not even joking, I looked at an old picture the other day and there were no fat children or adults, and there were a lot of people in it), everyone was very active (hours a day and full days at the weekend). Wow, I sound old now but even things like - there were only 4 TV channels.

So what I am wondering is if you don't have the essential ligament, muscle and skeletal strength to put your body through hard running right now. You don't run before you can walk! (hike.)

That is a result of the time you grew up in. I would imagine some of your schoolmates were exactly the same (not all, before you say that).

So in that case, TO AVOID GETTING INJURED AGAIN, start off with going for walks around where you live, then make them longer, then progress to hills (or steps if you don't have hills). You can add a rucksack (is it called that there - backpack?) and add in weight to that as time goes on. You need to be active. You need a base for running, people are so weak these days (no judgement on that, it's just a statement of fact, it is common). THEN go on to the C25K.

You are 19, you shouldn't be getting injured like this, and barring any kind of underlying problem (I think you said that had been excluded) it may be a lack of daily activity issue, at least in my opinion.

Also if you sit at a computer for 18 hours a day and then suddenly go running you ARE going to run into problems (no joke intended).

water from the forest wrote:

david, did you grow up very inactive (not involved in any sports or playing outside for fun, spending the day outside, running around in fields/roads/playgrounds and so on)... and before and during you started running just sat during the rest of the time? I am just wondering. When I grew up, there were not really many or any fat people at least where I was (I am not even joking, I looked at an old picture the other day and there were no fat children or adults, and there were a lot of people in it), everyone was very active (hours a day and full days at the weekend). Wow, I sound old now but even things like - there were only 4 TV channels.

So what I am wondering is if you don't have the essential ligament, muscle and skeletal strength to put your body through hard running right now. You don't run before you can walk! (hike.)

That is a result of the time you grew up in. I would imagine some of your schoolmates were exactly the same (not all, before you say that).

So in that case, TO AVOID GETTING INJURED AGAIN, start off with going for walks around where you live, then make them longer, then progress to hills (or steps if you don't have hills). You can add a rucksack (is it called that there - backpack?) and add in weight to that as time goes on. You need to be active. You need a base for running, people are so weak these days (no judgement on that, it's just a statement of fact, it is common). THEN go on to the C25K.

You are 19, you shouldn't be getting injured like this, and barring any kind of underlying problem (I think you said that had been excluded) it may be a lack of daily activity issue, at least in my opinion.

Also if you sit at a computer for 18 hours a day and then suddenly go running you ARE going to run into problems (no joke intended).

david45 wrote:

water from the forest wrote:

david, did you grow up very inactive (not involved in any sports or playing outside for fun, spending the day outside, running around in fields/roads/playgrounds and so on)... and before and during you started running just sat during the rest of the time? I am just wondering. When I grew up, there were not really many or any fat people at least where I was (I am not even joking, I looked at an old picture the other day and there were no fat children or adults, and there were a lot of people in it), everyone was very active (hours a day and full days at the weekend). Wow, I sound old now but even things like - there were only 4 TV channels.

So what I am wondering is if you don't have the essential ligament, muscle and skeletal strength to put your body through hard running right now. You don't run before you can walk! (hike.)

That is a result of the time you grew up in. I would imagine some of your schoolmates were exactly the same (not all, before you say that).

So in that case, TO AVOID GETTING INJURED AGAIN, start off with going for walks around where you live, then make them longer, then progress to hills (or steps if you don't have hills). You can add a rucksack (is it called that there - backpack?) and add in weight to that as time goes on. You need to be active. You need a base for running, people are so weak these days (no judgement on that, it's just a statement of fact, it is common). THEN go on to the C25K.

You are 19, you shouldn't be getting injured like this, and barring any kind of underlying problem (I think you said that had been excluded) it may be a lack of daily activity issue, at least in my opinion.

Also if you sit at a computer for 18 hours a day and then suddenly go running you ARE going to run into problems (no joke intended).

I also don't know whether or not I have underlying problems

water from the forest wrote:

david, did you grow up very inactive (not involved in any sports or playing outside for fun, spending the day outside, running around in fields/roads/playgrounds and so on)... and before and during you started running just sat during the rest of the time? I am just wondering. When I grew up, there were not really many or any fat people at least where I was (I am not even joking, I looked at an old picture the other day and there were no fat children or adults, and there were a lot of people in it), everyone was very active (hours a day and full days at the weekend). Wow, I sound old now but even things like - there were only 4 TV channels.

So what I am wondering is if you don't have the essential ligament, muscle and skeletal strength to put your body through hard running right now. You don't run before you can walk! (hike.)

That is a result of the time you grew up in. I would imagine some of your schoolmates were exactly the same (not all, before you say that).

So in that case, TO AVOID GETTING INJURED AGAIN, start off with going for walks around where you live, then make them longer, then progress to hills (or steps if you don't have hills). You can add a rucksack (is it called that there - backpack?) and add in weight to that as time goes on. You need to be active. You need a base for running, people are so weak these days (no judgement on that, it's just a statement of fact, it is common). THEN go on to the C25K.

You are 19, you shouldn't be getting injured like this, and barring any kind of underlying problem (I think you said that had been excluded) it may be a lack of daily activity issue, at least in my opinion.

Also if you sit at a computer for 18 hours a day and then suddenly go running you ARE going to run into problems (no joke intended).

water from the forest wrote:

david, did you grow up very inactive (not involved in any sports or playing outside for fun, spending the day outside, running around in fields/roads/playgrounds and so on)... and before and during you started running just sat during the rest of the time? I am just wondering. When I grew up, there were not really many or any fat people at least where I was (I am not even joking, I looked at an old picture the other day and there were no fat children or adults, and there were a lot of people in it), everyone was very active (hours a day and full days at the weekend). Wow, I sound old now but even things like - there were only 4 TV channels.

So what I am wondering is if you don't have the essential ligament, muscle and skeletal strength to put your body through hard running right now. You don't run before you can walk! (hike.)

That is a result of the time you grew up in. I would imagine some of your schoolmates were exactly the same (not all, before you say that).

So in that case, TO AVOID GETTING INJURED AGAIN, start off with going for walks around where you live, then make them longer, then progress to hills (or steps if you don't have hills). You can add a rucksack (is it called that there - backpack?) and add in weight to that as time goes on. You need to be active. You need a base for running, people are so weak these days (no judgement on that, it's just a statement of fact, it is common). THEN go on to the C25K.

You are 19, you shouldn't be getting injured like this, and barring any kind of underlying problem (I think you said that had been excluded) it may be a lack of daily activity issue, at least in my opinion.

Also if you sit at a computer for 18 hours a day and then suddenly go running you ARE going to run into problems (no joke intended).